1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

Obama Gun Control

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by 635 G, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,214
    Looks like Obama has just shut down the CMP, via executive order---no longer able to import M1-Garands from oversea's sources.

    Ammo is next.

    Looks like we got our first Black, Hitler Any Jew who voted for him, probably had a few dead relatives who voted for the original white one.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  2. bsekf

    bsekf Member

    Joined:
    Sep 25, 2007
    Messages:
    66
    The NRA has it right, will not do anything to control gun crime, but it will make it hard for honest shooters to get guns and ammo.
     
  3. CharlieAMA

    CharlieAMA TS Supporters TS Supporters

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    12,523
    Location:
    God's Country
    When did this exec. order come down from our ruler?
     
  4. rpeerless

    rpeerless Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    3,685
    'Zip' has nothing else in the world to focus on. Everything else is so peachy keen and wonderful.
     
  5. b12

    b12 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    3,043
    The whole thing is to undermine the peoples thinking and instill a little fear. Which is working very well to the weak minded. Which there are more than you think.
    No the new ban has no real affect on the gun owners just in mine only. Howerver the surpluse will be sold in Mexcio and also to the brotherhood. Getting the guns to the enemy will be much easier now that the weapons will be diverted from comming into this country.
    All I can say is there are alot of dumbass people that thought they would get something for free for voting this animal in. Bunch of ingnorant,greedy imbeciles. Bill
     
  6. birdogs

    birdogs TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,775
    These Executive Ordere are not intended to reduce crime. Their sole intention is to deny to the American citizenry access to any weapons with which they can defend themselves against a tyranical government.

    The American people, having been dumbed down by our second-rate liberal eductaion establishment, has been further anesthetized by 5 years of this rogue administration. Like zombies, 50% or more of the population blindly follows whatever craziness comes out of DC. They do so because their goodies also come from DC, like food stamps, Obama phones and healthcare, etc.

    What need have we of guns? We are being taken care of by the Beltway establishment from cradle to grave and are being given all that these people say we need. The only casualties are liberty and freedom. But why would you need then when you have a government which knows for certain what is best and provides it as it sees fit? Gee, sounds like the USSR!

    It breaks my heart to say it but I say once again, "AMERICA IS OVER!" Certainly the America we older people, say over the age of 60, grew up in and loved. What has replaced it for the moment is a dependent populace, being dragged from one crisis to another by an incompetent President surrounded by a coterie of "hate America" sycophants.

    In the future as they determine it, America will become totally irrelevent on the world stage and become a rotting corpse as was the Roman Empire in its last days. Rome was invaded by tribe after tribe of barbarians. America is under such attack at the present time. Wave after wave of immigrants, legal and illegal, invade this countyr every year, many across our southern border AND many from the middle east and North Africa. I defy anyone to make a cogent case that this is not vangard of of the coming of an even larger invasion of barbarians.

    Look at the demographics. Muslims immigrabnts enter America in hordes, go on public assistance and have over 11 children per family which we support! Withinh a few decades they will outnumber present-day Americans. And we, the dumbed-down fools are paying for this to happen!

    Don't forget to vote for your favorite Democrat in the next election and for Hillary in 2016, IF we still have elections by then!
     
  7. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    10,521
    Location:
    Idaho
    Wake up world, we now have a 2nd Hitler. Thank you folks who voted for him. If you have realized your mistake, then I forgive you, if not I feel sorry for your dumb a**
     
  8. Johnny

    Johnny Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,792
    Phil, I don't think the CMP imports any thing. The Garands come from government arsenals.
     
  9. MTA Tom

    MTA Tom Active Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    1,301
    "The Obama administration is also proposing a federal rule to stop those who would be ineligible to pass a background check from skirting the law by registering a gun to a corporation or trust. The new rule would require people associated with those entities, like beneficiaries and trustees, to undergo the same type of fingerprint-based background checks as individuals if they want to register guns."

    Please note this applies to NFA items.

    Also check John Lott's site for more info on these two rule changes: http://johnrlott.blogspot.com/2013/08/obamas-two-new-executive-orders-on-guns.html?showComment=1377814619920
     
  10. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jun 30, 2008
    Messages:
    6,214
    Lets say, our weapons were given to South Korea, Greece , Turkey, etc-once they return to the U.S., they are considered imported. Just hope the same doesn't happen with ammo.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  11. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    25,238
    Location:
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    Quote: <i>The Obama administration is also proposing a federal rule to stop those who would be ineligible to pass a background check from skirting the law by registering a gun to a corporation or trust. The new rule would require people associated with those entities, like beneficiaries and trustees, to undergo the same type of fingerprint-based background checks as individuals if they want to register guns.</i>

    This is a lie.

    The fact is, a corporation or trust is not an individual, therefore no background check is done for a corporation or individual at the BATF & FBI fingerprint level.

    BUT, when the person comes to pick up whatever NFA firearm or device it is that they are transferring, they have to fill out a 4473 and go through a NICS check.

    So to say they have no background check is an outright lie.

    The REAL reason for this decree is that trusts are more and more popular because of abuses of the process by anti-gun chiefs of police and sheriffs.

    Each application for a tax stamp for an individual requires what is called a CLEO sign off. CLEO stands for Chief Law Enforcement Officer. Back in the days before records were kept, this helped the feds by having someone local be able to screen out bad apples. But it immediately became a vehicle for anti-gun chiefs of police or sheriffs to just deny their "permission" to own an NFA firearm or device.

    Corporations and trusts were exempted from CLEO signoffs from day one (1934). This was one way to get around the abuse of the CLEO sign off.

    So now Obama wants those creating a trust to get around the abuse of the CLEO sign off to have to get a CLEO sign off and be subject to the abuse.

    The NFA community has been trying to get rid of the CLEO sign off for many years, and has been working with BATF towards that end. This is now a giant set back, showing Obama will not give it up.

    Don't expect the media to give the correct version of the story. They do not understand the issues or process involved, nor the law, nor the history of abuses. No one will question the emperor's new clothes.
     
  12. rpeerless

    rpeerless Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Dec 4, 2009
    Messages:
    3,685
    http://clashdaily.com/2013/08/contrast-leftist-gun-grabbers-win-iowa-gun-owners-gather/


    Good article.