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Sen. Barack Obama

Democrat Sen. Barack Obama's stunning assertion in a recent speech that the U.S. needs a "civilian national security force" that would be as powerful, strong and well-funded as the half-trillion dollar Army, Marines, Navy and Air Force is not included in published transcripts of his prepared remarks.

In the July 2 speech in Colorado Springs, Obama insisted the U.S. "cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set."

Campaign officials have declined to return any of a series of WND telephone calls over several days requesting comment. Nor have they posted a transcript of the speech on their website.

The lines are not included in a transcript of the prepared remarks published by the Denver Post and Wall Street Journal.

But a YouTube video of the speech, at about the 16-minute mark, shows Obama added the following lines:

"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we've set. We've got to have a civilian national security force that's just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded."

Now what do you suppose a Marxist would want with a "civilian national security force" powerful enough to take on our own military?
 
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Trappy

"I think it's called militia. Didn't we have that back in the day? Like 1775? -Trappy"

I think if you check there was no civilian Commander and Chief as there would be now a commander I might add that has no experience in such in such matters. The Colonial Militia as I recall history and what I have read was under the command of the Continental Army not a civilian force

What scares me more than that is who would have command of this civilian national security force. Don't say Obama because that would scare the He!! out of me and I am sure many more.

Bob Lawless
 
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Time for the ziggy form.

OK trappy, IF you were old enough to vote, and I know you are, tell us who YOU would vote for. I say this because you told us you were 12 and then that you had a birthday so now it's 13 but you also said that you were leaving this site.

That was a lie so I really don't know if you can be trusted to tell your true age.

The ziggy form. In your case, I have added the word IF

IF I could vote, I would vote for_____________and_________AND BE PROUD OF IT!


BTW, one of your obama follower pals accused me of being a troll because I didn't shoot enough reg. targets. I'm waiting for him to post HIS number. How about YOUR number? Put it right after the ziggy form for us.

Tom(AJ100)
 
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When "The One" first mentioned the need for a "civilian, paramilitary force" he noted it was needed to enhance "internal security." Although he has mentioned this force once or twice since, the press has never picked up on it, questioned it, or what it would do, who it would answer to, and why it would be needed. All queries to the campaign or elsewhere since July have met with silence on this. The only information I could ever obtain from speeches, etc has been that it would be "funded and armed on a par with our military forces." Would it supercede police forces? Any thinking person has to ask themselves just what do we need a super paramilitary force for in a free country. Pdrhaps he intends it to "monitor" the next elections?
 
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Here is the video, goes right to the quote.

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jimrich60, quote: <i>"When "The One" first mentioned the need for a "civilian, paramilitary force" he noted it was needed to enhance "internal security." Although he has mentioned this force once or twice since, the press has never picked up on it, questioned it, or what it would do, who it would answer to, and why it would be needed. All queries to the campaign or elsewhere since July have met with silence on this. The only information I could ever obtain from speeches, etc has been that it would be "funded and armed on a par with our military forces." Would it supercede police forces? Any thinking person has to ask themselves just what do we need a super paramilitary force for in a free country. Pdrhaps he intends it to "monitor" the next elections?"</i><br>
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I took it to mean an unarmed civilian program based upon the Gestapo for adults and the Hitler Jugend for children. The goal would be to have a body of snitches ready to turn in their fellow citizens for politically incorrect activity. This has already been tried to a lesser extent in some east coast states with their "turn in a gunowner" programs, where anyone can snitch on a gunowner resulting in a police investigation. In Oregon, we've had "environmentalists" trespassing onto private property to "inventory" Spotted Owls, as well as doing an "inventory" of what you have on your property for buildings, fences, paint and landscaping in the Columbia River Gorge Scenic Area. In the latter case they trespass to videotape your property so if you make any changes they can drag you before the gorge protection council. I have no doubt this is exactly what Obama wants.<br>
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I also have no doubt he does not want a militia in the truest sense of the word. There is no way he would want armed civilians. He is extremely anti-gun.<br>
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As for the militia, we are all militia members. Citizens who are not in the active military or the reserves, including the federalized National Guard, are automatically members of the unorganized militia.
 
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Trappy, more questions need to be answered. Is this a militia like the Minutemen of old? Or is this like the unorganized Militia? Or is this like the Hitler Jugend and Volkssturm, with a healthy does of Gestapo added? Have your friends at DUmmycrat Underground leaked any hints as to what exactly "Der Fuhrer", er, sorry, "The Messiah" means by this?
 
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Brian in Oregon

"I also have no doubt he does not want a militia in the truest sense of the word. There is no way he would want armed civilians. He is extremely anti-gun."

Brian I do agree that he is anti-gun and this is a big part of what scares me about his statements. In the Video Joe posted above if you listen to his words very carefully. He says a civilian force just as powerful, just as strong, just as well funded. I for one have not figured how he will accomplish his plan by your evaluation.

"The goal would be to have a body of snitches ready to turn in their fellow citizens for politically incorrect activity. This has already been tried to a lesser extent in some east coast states with their "turn in a gunowner""

I don't think I will ever understand how they(a body of snitches)can be as powerful, strong, well funded as the Military. With out weapons of some kind and I am at a loss to figure what weapons if he is against guns.

Bob Lawless
 
#24 ·
"But you are sounding somewhat like a narrow minded old man. Brush your teeth before you come to the keyboard. You'll be more fun"

MIA, I'm 56, to 'trappy12" that might be old. I'm still young enough to try everything I can to get John McCain elected and make obama a memory.

"Brush my teeth"

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"You'll be more fun"

I'm not trying to be funny. I don't see ONE thing "funny" about obama/biden in the White House. Scary, YES

Funny, NO WAY.

Tom(AJ100)
 
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I think from the context in which "The One" made his comments on the paramilitary force, he is clearly not talking about an armed militia, nor ordinary citizens having firearms. Rather, he is talking about creating a new million man paramilitary (outside of the regular armed forces) funded and armed similarly to the armed forces (tanks, machine guns, artillery, whatever) but the question becomes who this armed force is answerable to. Would they, as the military does now, take an oath to support and defend the Constitution, or would they take an oath of loyalty to the Government or some individual (The One perhaps?) Never forget the military is sworn to defend the Constitution, not any particular Government or person in the Government (as a retired Officer, I swore to protect and defend the Constitution against all enemies, not to protect the Government). And as noted earlier, against what or whom are all the weapons to be used? What internal security issues do we have that would require something beyond our military to defend against? Whatever this paramilitary force is supposed to be, it clearly is not a citizens militia, nor does it have anything to do with citizens having or keeping the right to bear arms.
 
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Bob, for a body of snitches, look no further than Nazi Germany in WWII and the Soviet Union. Remember the Hitler Jugend were conditioned to snitch on all non-loyal Nazis, including their parents. Also remember the chilling warning from Ray Bradybury's "Fahrenheit 451", where citizens were encouraged to turn others in. And don't forget the "Rat your gun owning neighbor out" programs in some east coast states. It can be done. There is nothing so dangerous as a liberal (nee socialist) leader with an agenda and an idea - him mindless minions will blindly follow him with enthusiasm that reminds many of the Nuremburg rallies.<br>
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As to weapons, keep in mind that the traditional weapons would be in the hands of the authorities. But thought control is a powerful weapon, as is intelligence gathering (ie snitching). What better way to make sure gun owners are vilified and to get people to turn in all suspected gun owners? Perhaps those who seem to make more money than they should. Or some who harbor thoughts considered to be oppressive to some officially sanctioned group?<br>
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I take Marxism very seriously. My wife's grandparents had death warrants issued for them by the Red Guards. Other family members have fought them in combat and during the Cold War. Friends have escaped from them, some in the 1980's and some in 1956 and 1968. Obama is a marxist, and based on his Soros funding, Joyce Foundation leadership position, AND HIS OWN STATEMENTS AND ACTIONS, I believe we are about to elect someone who will work to destroy our rights and freedoms.<br>
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"Tyranny, like Hell, not easily conquered." Thomas Paine
 
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