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O/T Rifle brass what is best

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by Ohio Bob, Jan 29, 2011.

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  1. Ohio Bob

    Ohio Bob Member

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    I want 6mm Remington brass. Who makes good brass to load?

    Thanks,

    OB
     
  2. oz

    oz Active Member

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    anything made in USA. oz
     
  3. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Lapua is the best. Norma is very good.
    Remington/Winchester are adequate.

    HM
     
  4. HSLDS

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    Halfmile is correct.

    Lapua (from Sako - Finland) and Norma (Sweden) are great.

    I like WInchester and Federal over Remington (often too soft).

    If you can find it PMC makes great brass as well.

    You might try Startline - not sure what rifle calibers they make.
     
  5. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    Hornadys brass is excellent but be careful with your existing recipes..its thick brass that holds a few less grains and it will max out quicker
     
  6. deercreek

    deercreek Well-Known Member

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    Of the Big 3 - In this order...Federal, Winchester, and Remington is last on my list.

    Lapua is my favorite for my 223 and 308's
     
  7. bill1949

    bill1949 Well-Known Member

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    I have had good luck with Nosler brass, don't know if they make it or have it made by another brass mfr. Never had a case split yet...Bill
     
  8. W.R.Buchanan

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    I doubt you're gonna find much 6MM Remington brass from any of the foreign makers. They all make good stuff, but I doubt they make brass for a relatively unpopular round.

    I kind of think Remington is going to be your best bet. The cartridge was just the renamed .244 Remington, and was pretty much overshadowed by the .243 from the start. They got the twist rate wrong on the first rifles and it lost the battle to the .243 Win. This all happened back in the 1960's. Rem renamed the round in the late 70's or early 80's, but the damage was irreperably done.

    Now there are several new 6MM cartridges that are much better. 6mm PPC, 6BR, 6x47, I could go on.

    I think Remington is your best bet. Unless you are shooting lots of varmints, and want to load hot, I think you'd get fine case life with their brass. None of it will last much longer than 5-6 loadings anyway.

    Randy
     
  9. School Teacher

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    Remington makes good quality brass that should very well suit your needs. Simply buy a couple of boxes (or more) of Remington factory ammo and you are in business. Alternatively, you can probably by new, unfired 6mm Remington brass from Midway USA or Sinclair International in 100 case lots.

    For varmint hunting, Remington brass should more than fit your needs.

    For extreme accuracy one of the other makes might be a little better but there probably will not be that much difference. Bench rest shooters don't have large quantities of cases. Instead, they have a handful that have been selected for uniformity and then are reworked to be as identical as possible.

    They will buy a hundred new cases and then weigh each case on a digital scale, The cases are then arranged in ascending order or descending order on a flat surface and then put into groups of five or so for reloading purposes. Sometimes, the cases are filled with water and then the water is removed and weighed.

    My understanding is that the 6 mm Remington is based on the .257 Roberts which, in turn, is based on the old 7x57 Mauser. If 6 mm brass is not available, you can probably make your own from 7x57 or .257 Roberts cases. A telephone call or e-mail to RCBS should let you know if this solution is feasible and what equipment is required.

    Ed Ward
     
  10. AveragEd

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    I have several 6mm rifles and use Remington brass in them all with good results. I swore off Winchester brass a few years ago when I bought 200 new unprimed 7mm STW cases and found the necks cut at an angle and .020" shorter than the trim-to length. After an unanswered email and an unreturned voice message, I mailed them a letter and got a letter in return telling me to return the brass.

    I did (at my expense) and the brass they sent to replace it had the same defects! They didn't care enough to check it. I sent that stuff back (at my expense) and received a check for $35 and a letter telling me they no longer loaded ammunition or sold reloading brass for that caliber.

    At about the same time, I bought 100 pieces of new uprimed Winchester brass in .243 Win. It was all .030" to .035" over maximum case length and had very shallow primer pockets. I pretty much gave up on their brass at that point. I know Remington brass isn't a lot of people's favorite but I've never had a problem with it.

    A year and a half ago, I had a rifle built in .280 Ackley Improved and since Nosler makes .280AI ammo and brass, I bought 50 pieces of their brass to save myself having to fire-form .280 Rem brass. That's some good stuff - all I had to do was neck-size it and load it. Every piece was right on the trim-to length, the primer pockets were uniform and the loaded ammo shoots ragged one-hole groups just under a half-inch with 140-grain Berger VLDs over RE-22 powder.

    Ed
     
  11. OldPshtr

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    Ed: Have a 380 Improved. Would the Nosler brass work and save
    fire forming?

    Doyal
     
  12. AveragEd

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    What's a "380 Improved?" What's the parent case?

    Ed
     
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    I've had great luck with U.S. military .308 MATCH brass. Just neck it down,trim and fireform for 243.
     
  14. shooterIII

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    I use or have used almost all of the different brass, but the number one thing is consistency. When loading, sort the brass by mfg. You will then be able to decide which is best for you.
     
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    Lake City National Match brass. HMB
     
  16. halfmile

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    I haven't checked but I think the 257 Bob might cost more than the 6MM.

    7x57 might be available.

    If you put out a call on 24 hr campfire you will get results.

    HM
     
  17. wolfram

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    When I used to load that fine round, Federal brass seemed to produce the best results although Winchester and Remington brass lasted about as long. None of this stuff split on me it was more a matter of the primer pockets getting too loose.

    The school teacher is correct about the 7x57, the .257 Roberts and the 6mm Reminton all being the same basic case. I have even gotten .257 mixed up with 6mm brass and loaded them all as 6mms. But correct stamped brass isn't that hard to come by, just buy a few boxes of factory loaded Federals and you will have a brass supply for quite alot of shooting.
     
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    LAPUA is the best I've used. Norma is a close second. Federal and Remington are usually consistent. Winchester is touch and go. I rework most of my varmint and target stuff, so I try to start with the best I can find. It's hardly worth the effort to put time into mediocre brass.
     
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