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O/T Military Pay

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Shooting Jack, Jan 1, 2011.

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  1. Shooting Jack

    Shooting Jack Active Member

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    I didn't check this with Snopes as their opinion is no better than mine.


    If you get this more than once, feel honored that you know more than one
    person who supports our military and appreciates what they do.
    If you don't forward it, you don't deserve their sacrifice.

    CINDY WILLIAMS was appointed by Obama as an Assistant Director for
    NATIONAL SECURITY in the Congressional Budget Office.....

    Military Pay

    This is an Airman's response to Cindy Williams' editorial piece in the
    Washington Times about MILITARY PAY, it should be printed in all
    newspapers across America .

    Ms. Cindy William wrote a piece for the Washington Times denouncing the
    pay raise(s) coming service members' way this year citing that she
    stated a 13% wage increase was more than they deserve.

    A young airman from Hill AFB responds to her article below. He ought to
    get a bonus for this.


    "Ms Williams:
    I just had the pleasure of reading your column, "Our GI's earn enough"
    and I am a bit confused. Frankly, I'm wondering where this vaunted
    overpayment is going, because as far as I can tell, it disappears every
    month between DFAS (The Defense Finance and Accounting Service) and my
    bank account. Checking my latest earnings statement I see that I make
    $1,117.80 before taxes per month. After taxes, I take home $874.20.
    When I run that through the calculator, I come up with an annual salary
    of $13,413.60 before taxes, and $10,490.40 after.

    I work in the Air Force Network Control Center where I am part of the
    team responsible for a 5,000 host computer network. I am involved with
    infrastructure segments, specifically with Cisco Systems equipment. A
    quick check under jobs for "Network Technicians" in the Washington ,
    D.C. Area reveals a position in my career field, requiring three years€
    ™ experience in my job. Amazingly, this job does NOT pay $13,413.60 a
    year. No, this job is being offered at $70,000 to $80,000 per
    annum............ I'm sure you can draw the obvious conclusions.

    Given the tenor of your column, I would assume that you NEVER had the
    pleasure of serving your country in her armed forces.
    Before you take it upon yourself to once more castigate congressional
    and DOD leadership for attempting to get the families in the military's
    lowest pay brackets off of WIC and food stamps, I suggest that you join
    a group of deploying soldiers headed for AFGHANISTAN ; I leave the
    choice of service branch up to you. Whatever choice you make though, opt
    for the SIX month rotation: it will guarantee you the longest possible
    time away from your family and friends, thus giving you full "deployment
    experience."

    As your group prepares to board the plane, make sure to note the spouses
    and children who are saying good-bye to their loved ones. Also take care
    to note that several families are still unsure of how they'll be able to
    make ends meet while the primary breadwinner is gone. Obviously they've
    been squandering the "vast" piles of cash the government has been giving
    them.

    Try to deploy over a major holiday; Christmas and Thanksgiving are
    perennial favorites. And when you're actually over there, sitting in a
    foxhole, shivering against the cold desert night, and the flight
    sergeant tells you that there aren't enough people on shift to relieve
    you for chow, remember this: trade whatever MRE's (meal-ready-to-eat)
    you manage to get for the tuna noodle casserole or cheese tortellini,
    and add Tabasco to everything. This gives some flavor.

    Talk to your loved ones as often as you are permitted; it won't be
    nearly long enough or often enough, but take what you can get and be
    thankful for it. You may have picked up on the fact that I disagree with
    most of the points you present in your open piece.

    But, tomorrow from KABUL , I will defend to the death your right to say
    it.

    You see, I am an American fighting man, a guarantor of your First
    Amendment right and every other right you cherish...On a daily basis, my
    brother and sister soldiers worldwide ensure that you and people like
    you can thumb your collective noses at us, all on a salary that is
    nothing short of pitiful and under conditions that would make most
    people cringe. We hemorrhage our best and brightest into the private
    sector because we can't offer the stability and pay of civilian
    companies.

    And you, Ms. Williams, have the gall to say that we make more than we
    deserve?

    A1C Michael Bragg, Hill AFB AFNCC
     
  2. sernv99

    sernv99 Active Member

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    I would check these stories out before posting....I know we all hate Obama but this stuff happened in July 2001....way before Obama was elected...and the Washington Times is a conservative paper so this would had never made in their paper to begin with

    http://urbanlegends.about.com/library/blpayraise.htm
     
  3. Shooting Jack

    Shooting Jack Active Member

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    Serv 99, I believe you need to go check your facts. Granted it does have the wrong paper named which is an error but the lady(if I may be so bold) did indeed write the article and approx 9 years later was appointed to a position by Obama, your president. Notice I didn't say my president, in my book he is an office holder which sounds a little better than an outright liar and crook. Please read the following:




    Classic Bilge: Cindy Williams & Military PayApr 14 2009

    Published by Matthew LoFiego at 9:55 am under Benefits Cuts, Classic Urban Legends, Pay Cuts, Soldier’s Views

    True article, real response, but the intro contains falsehoods…

    BotB Verdict


    Average Number of Times Received Daily at MOAA: 1


    SummaryAn article from 2000 that caused quite a stir in the military community continues to come up from time to time. The article, entitled ‘Our GIs Earn Enough, was written by Cindy Williams, a columnist for the Washington Times can be read here.



    The Most Common Iteration This is an Airman’s response to Cindy Williams’ editorial piece in the Washington Times about MILITARY PAY, it should be printed in all newspapers across America. On Nov. 12, Ms Cindy Williams (from Laverne and Shirley TV show) wrote a piece for the Washington Times, denouncing the pay raise(s) coming service members’ way this year — citing that the stated 13% wage was more than they deserve.

    A young airman from Hill AFB responds to her article below. He ought to get a bonus for this.
     
  4. sernv99

    sernv99 Active Member

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    Jack:

    you need to get your facts straight,,,,,AGAIN!!!!

    she posted this letter over 10 years ago....maybe you should had mentioned that in the beginning? also, this person is not from Laverne and Shirley!!!! And she was working in the CBO years ago!!!!

    http://www.cbo.gov/doc.cfm?index=4788&type=0


    http://www.businessofgovernment.org/bio/cindy-williams

    Again, GET YOUR FACTS STRAIGHT!!!!
     
  5. W.P.T.

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    My Nephews retirment from the Military is well over $75,000 per year and he was paid a lot more than reported in that article while on active duty in the Middle East ... When he retires from his other job as a Swat Team Commander, his total retirement will be well over $120,000 per year plus all of the other benefit packages ... Not Bad ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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    gdbabin TS Member

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    What rank did your Nephew retire at and how long did he serve?


    FY11 provides a 1.4% increase in Base Pay. The new FY11 table is avail at:


    http://www.dfas.mil/militarypay/militarypaytables/2011MilitaryPayTable1-4.pdf


    Guy Babin
     
  7. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

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    Not sure what rank he retired at but he had almost 28 years service in the Military, and has over 20 with the Police Dept (Swat Team Commander for almost 10) ... I think the Military and Police Dept are the only jobs he has ever had in since he turned 18 years of age ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  8. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

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    We can debate military pay all day.

    Here's what I think needs to be done, REDUCE political office holders pay starting with the Presidents down to the janitor in DC to the LOWEST paid combat personal on the front line! Next ALL public service employee's starting with the President on down, who get health care of some form, from now on will be handled by the VA!

    We don't pay our COMBAT personal enough! Period!!

    We have OVERPAID our elected officals! Period!!
     
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