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O/T Maybe not. How do you get a reducer out

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by foghorn220, Jul 20, 2007.

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  1. foghorn220

    foghorn220 Active Member

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    Ok I have been thru this a time or two before and the last time I said to my friend just fix it.

    Ok I have heard freeze it and oil it and I have banged the hell out of it a lot of times myself.

    BUT IT IS STILL STUCK

    Ok here is a freeze test of it and it is still a tight fit.


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    Ok open for sugestions Im sure I had tried some of the other's that will be posted but the banging theroy is a bad one because the stock is loose also it might crack the skunk grade wood and we all know that is a hard wood to find!


    Foghorn....
     
  2. Quack Shot

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    You could try to freeze it and then heat (warm) the surrounding material lightly with a decent heat gun. It should loosen enough to tap it slightly to remove it. Careful not to over do it with the heat gun.

    It's much easier to tell someone to "just fix it"! Especially when they have done it a few times.
     
  3. Neil Winston

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    If you took all the hardware off the end

    And smacked the butt of the gun a substantial number of times with a hide mallet (not hitting the reducer as it inched it's way back out,

    (The reviled Newton, again, here insisting on listening to his first law.)

    you'd find it on the floor soon enough.*

    Neil

    *never fails.
     
  4. foghorn220

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    Neil Winston


    Well that bird won't fly because the hardware is attached with a loose bolt in the same hole as the mercury reducer so what I was asking is how to get the tight fitting mercurey reducer out of the bolt hole if I could do that then I could remove the hard ware but if I removed the hard ware then I would have my problem solved and im sure I would make it a loose fit the next time incase if I needed to tighten up the stock again.


    Fog
     
  5. foghorn220

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    Zardozforty


    Ok it is a Mercurey one.


    Fog
     
  6. m70win

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    Hey Foggy try splitting it with an axe. Then you can take the reducer and put it in your other gun.

    Tim
     
  7. foghorn220

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    Ok I don't own a adjustable comb at all so that is not the problem opp.s i forgot I do have 1 beretta auto that someone installed a adjustable comb on years ago but don't shot the gun any.

    So the only thing on the back half of the gun is just the skunk grade wood.

    m70win


    That is a good ideal whoa just woke up and suppose to be in Mississippi about now it looks like I might not make it today im sure it will save me some money and I won't be embarrased with my shooting score.

    GunDr I never seen a hole in this reducer before it is the C-H brand I think I spelled it right if not then it is something like that if there is a hole then it has to be on the side that is not shown.

    I have had it in my other gun before and never saw a hole in eiter end of it before.

    Fog
     
  8. GunDr

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    The mercury reducers usually have a threaded hole in one end. I believe it's a 1/4-20 thread. I use a home-made slide hammer for popping them out. It looks just like those dent poppers that a car body man would use.

    I welded a 1/4-20 bolt to the end of a steel rod, fit a larger heavier piece of steel over the rod, and threaded the other end for a stop.

    It'll pull the most stubborn ones out. Even those that have layers of electrician's tape on them.

    Doug Braker
     
  9. foghorn220

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    Pat

    But if I drill a hole in it the the mercury will come if i go to deep.

    Might have to call the E.P.A. in if i was to have a mercury spill.

    L.O.L.

    Just like at the local school last fall a kid took a test tube of mercury to school and it broke on the school buss and the school was closed for at least 3 days cleaning up the spill on the bus and checking contamition of all the kids shoes.

    Fog
     
  10. Big Jack

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    Remove everything behind the reducer and fire a couple of shots, Let Newton help you a bit!

    Big Jack
     
  11. BDodd

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    Aww heck, just leave the danged thing in!<;-).....Bob Dodd
     
  12. foghorn220

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    Ok my friend did have it out a few months ago but wouldn't had figured he would had put it in backwards since he does know right from wrong on stuff about the works of a gun.

    Maybe it isn't a C & H brand but I always thought it was I know I can't shoot it like it is because the stock is real loose so it has to come out.

    I think I will try to start a self taping screw into the end of it and just leave it in permanent.

    Pat I used to play with the mercury also when we was kids I couldn't believe the school system took the bus out of commision they said it would cost to much to have it cleaned up so they scraped it instead.


    Here is the story below.







    Cost estimate on mercury cleanup not yet determined


    By GREG TRAVIS

    Staff Writer



    Last week's mercury spill at Calloway County Middle School may have been deemed small by local officials, but it appears that cleaning up the element is going to be costly.


    Calloway County School Superintendent Steve Hoskins, who was out of the office today and unavailable for comment, has said he hopes insurance will cover some of the losses. Students will also have to make up two missed days and a bus will be scrapped, according to David Dowdy, public relations coordinator for the school system.


    Dowdy said this morning that no actual totals for the cleanup have been determined. “We are still trying to decide where we stand, what can be done and what, if anything, can be salvaged.”


    Cindy Grubbs, district business administrator/financial officer, agreed, adding that officials do not yet have a total for the cleanup costs.


    Accoridng to Dowdy, a $60,000 figure recently reported may only be a reference to the approximate cost of a replacement bus. He said a small amount of the mercury was spilled on the floor of a 2001 bus, so it was taken out of service and another bus was being used on that route. It was determined that cleanup would cost more than the value of the bus, so the bus will be cut up sometime in the next week or two.



    He said the school system hoped to salvage some of the parts from the bus that weren't involved in any contamination, including the chassis, the motor and the transmission.


    Authorities reported earlier that approximately two dozen workers from county, state and federal emergency agencies were on-site addressing the situation, which included the actual cleanup of the school, administrative oversight and monitoring of the event and testing of students' shoes, bags, and other items.


    The entire county school system was dismissed on Monday and Wednesday last week before returning to school last Thursday. Classes were already scheduled to be out on Tuesday, Nov. 7, for Election Day.


    Hoskins said last week that the spill was concentrated in an area near eighth-grade science classrooms. However, testing and cleaning involved the entire school, lockers, trash cans, dumpsters and busses, as well as other schools where students might have been.


    A crew from a private team in Calvert City that specialize in this exact type cleanup work was called and worked day and night removing carpeting and molding to make sure everything in the school was clean, Hoskins said following the spill.




    Of the approximately 750 students and 100 teachers, faculty and staff, some 40 pairs of shoes or other items showed some sign of contamination. Officials had stated that the mercury could have been transferred to automobile carpet, household carpeting, laundry hampers or other locations.


    Hoskins said earlier that a thorough investigation was under way into the chain of events that led to the mercury spill, as well as how and when the mercury came into the school facility, when it left and where it went from there. He said school officials will continue to investigate the situation but their first concern had been making sure that everything was clean and every student was safe. He also noted that officials were looking at whether any school policies might have been violated by employees.


    “We learned that the mercury spill was the apparent result of a student who found out that someone in her family had been in possession of a small vial of mercury for many years. The family member knew what not to do with it, but the child found it and carried it to school. We are learning that in the course of that action, a bead of the mercury was spilled in a bus and a few other small beads were spilled in other places” Hoskins had said.





    Story created Nov 15, 2006 - 12:05:00 EST.




    foggy
     
  13. TC

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    Foggy, as Neil suggested, use a rawhide or rubber mallet. Holding the action upright and tap the stock from the bottom. Once it starts to move it will come out. It doesn't take much, I have done this several times before. Tony
     
  14. Shady Creek

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    Hold it just as it is,drill it,pour the mercury into a jar,tap it, put a bolt in,pull the reducer out. If you want to use it again,put the mercury back and loctite a short bolt in the hole. Or,,,,,,, do as Neil and TC said. GOOD LUCK
     
  15. foghorn220

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    Well I took the advice of some and I took a piece of 2x4 and taped it to the stock then held the gun upright with the reciever stick up then beat the you know what out of the block of 2x4 with a mini hand sledge hammer thought for sure when I untaped the small block of wood that the reducer would fall out but no it is still stuck.

    Ok then I took the hammer and hit the end of the stock direct and still nuthing well it looks like im going to get a self tapping screw next to drill into it if that works I will just leave the screw in it
    Fog
     
  16. m70win

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    Fog take a rope and thread it through the end of the barrel and tie a knot in it. Then take and spin it over your head. I'm sure if you spin it hard enough it will come lose.
    Tim
     
  17. Shady Creek

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    I wish you all the luck with your problem. I thought Neil's idea would work. Always trying to help. GOOD LUCK
     
  18. Hap MecTweaks

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    Sure sounds as though the reducer has flared out on the end into the wood OR has hung up on the stock bolt head? Either way, it's going to take some force to loosen it. OR, do as the good GunDr said by drilling and tapping a hole in the end.

    "I welded a 1/4-20 bolt to the end of a steel rod, fit a larger heavier piece of steel over the rod, and threaded the other end for a stop."

    Maybe weld an all-thread rod to a self drilling screw using part of Doug's method above to hand hammer it out. Something like the dent pullers auto body guys use? If that won't do the job, how much for the skunker? :) Hap
     
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    "Cost estimate on mercury cleanup not yet determined

    "Last week's mercury spill ...


    "Students will also have to make up two missed days ...

    "a bus will be scrapped ...

    "approximately two dozen workers from county, state and federal emergency agencies were on-site addressing the situation ...

    "The entire county school system was dismissed ...


    My God, the stupidity of these people knows no bounds. The combination of ambulance chasing sue-happy lawyers, dumber-than-fencepost educators, and socialist-liberal nanny-state politicians has finally succeeded in turning this country into a bunch of ignorant, frightened sheep.
     
  20. phirel

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    Before I tried to drill and tap a hole, I would spray some furniture polish into the hole, put on the recoil pad and shoot a round or two with handicap loads. They could free the reducer.

    Pat Ireland
     
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