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O/T Emergency Rooms

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by Kim Little, Sep 14, 2009.

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  1. Kim Little

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    Those of you in acute pain who only have gone to the emergency room for an injury listen up. You might want to get a second opinion from a specialist following your release. In my family alone we have had five misdiagnosis in the ER occuring in four different hospitals, four different states. One of which was my dad's malignant brain tumor, they treated him for heat exhaustion. The remainder were broken bones. This is unacceptable. Has anyone else experienced poor ER care? I have lost complete confidence in our ER's. Kim :(
     
  2. Carol Lister

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    I feel sorry for you. Next time you need real emergency care, maybe you should head to Hopkins or Reagan or Mass. General or U of P instead of some place where their job is simply to stabilize you until you can be seen by specialists.

    Lister
     
  3. Kim Little

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    Thanks Lister.........it's just unbelievable to me that the care is that poor across the board. You trust these individuals with your life.
     
  4. Quack Shot

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    Had a cranial tumor that was undiagnosed by the "efforts" of a well known HMO. A small town doctor finally put it all together and figured it out. Got hold of a great Endochrinologist and Neurosurgeon and together they seemed to have stopped the progression. It wasn't cancer, but if it was I wouldn't be around to post here. The HMO never took the symptoms seriously. They also didn't order the tests that were needed to properly diagnose it. Emergency rooms are a last resort, or something that can be used to keep you going long enough to find the care your require. For non-emergency care, some of those urgent care clinics aren't all that bad. For serious issues, go to the specialists directly.
     
  5. stokinpls

    stokinpls Well-Known Member

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    Things will be getting better soon. Kneel and submit.
     
  6. superxjeff

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    Kim, I suspect that mistakes are made at no higher rate in an ER then anyplace else. The problem is that by the time many people arrive at an ER they can ill afford a mistake. I remember reading about your dads battle in shotgun sports and about the heat exhaustion bit. I work very near an ER ( psych ward in the same hospital) and have heard a million stories on both sides of the coin. The best advice is to be your own advocate. Dr. Is no longer spelled GOD. If you don't like what you hear or feel , get a second opinion. That Dr in the ER knows an awful lot as they don't hand those titles out in a Cracker Jack box. That said, he doesn't know you, me, or the man on the moon and better then he knows the last patient he saw. Mistakes are made in all business and in every line and type of work. The consequences are just a lot higher in medicine.

    Jeff
     
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    Your being unfair.....ER's are to save lives long enough for you to be properly treated.....They save many lives every day. They were never expected to be specialized care facilities.
     
  8. Ahab

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    Is this what you are worried about?
     
  9. mr.mark

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    It seems you may be part of the problem with overcrowded er rooms.....

    Did you say "chronic pain"? What is emergent about that?

    You should see your family doctor! If you don't have one, then find one. Often times chronic pain is difficult to diagnose and can require extensive testing not available in the ER setting. Your family doctor can also follow your progress and make needed changes in your treatment along the way. ERs are not for "family practice."

    ERs are crowded enough with emergent people, not to mention all the indigent care patients we see and lots of non-urgent cases also. This is why we have a triage system so "emergent" patients can be seen first. Chronic pains go to the back of the line with sniffly kids.

    Please do us a favor and quit using the ERs for chronic pain, see your family doctor!

    Mr. Mark RN
     
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    Probably pound for pound these guys are the best there is for the situation. Jack of all trades master of none. They see everything. Overdoses, heart attacks, bee stings, scrapes, broken bones, everything. I come from a large family with around 8 great grand kids, 20 grand kids, six kids and Mom. Of all of these in recent history only two have been to an ER and both times the calls were correct. Just how many visits did it take to get the 5 bad calls? I am not trying to be difficult and I am really curious, Your family must have some kind of black cloud following it around like in Lil'Abner. I would'nt go back to any ER. Good luck in the future. Remember, take your vitamins and drink alot of water every day.
     
  11. Barry C. Roach

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    Emergency rooms are not clinics. They are not there for exotic or extensive diagnosis. You've got to go to your primary care physician to get the diagnostic ball rolling.

    These days you have to take charge of the direction your healthcare needs to take. Doc's these days want you to make some if not all of the calls. They look for you to take some of the risks and that is for self preservation. They pay big money for malpractice insurance and the days of completely trusting your ol'country sawbones is gone. They get their socks and shoes sued off of them. They walk on eggs today.

    Maybe you should walk a mile in those shoes.
     
  12. Remstar311

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    A malignant brain tumor is not anything to laugh at. It is not an emergency either. Did they do a CT scan of his head? It could be easily missed on CT if there was no contrast, too small, didn't cause midline shift, etc. If they did it... MRI rarely, if at all, does any patients from and ER.

    Mr Nick, R.T.(R)(ARRT)
     
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    If your primary care physician won't work with you, it's time to look for one that will. If your plan requires referrals, I'd want someone I could work with as a gatekeeper for my healthcare.
     
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    Lot of thing have same symptons , ER treat bleeding and broken bones first, And if it was hot and he had been working most coman would fit they can spend hours checking every possible cause no one would get care. Next there are a lot of people that use ER for vists of on going issues not adressed They are at fault, Dortors are not gods or mind readers they are trying to help and get to next person who needs help like mechanics some are better than others at it and some make unintended misstakes. on symtons that could fit 50 different things
     
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    Wow...

    Kim... the squeaky wheel gets the grease. I can't imagine having severe headaches with hallucinations and agreeing to leave an ER without some testing.
    Assuming you had insurance, normally they would be glad to write up a laundry list billet, even on a weekend and if CT or MRI isn't available, they're glad to admit on an emergency basis... so what actually happened?!

    As for having an HMO and requring referrals and not getting them... as was said, get another PCP or choose the PPO with self-referrals.

    We've got a fanatastic healthcare delivery system in this country, the payor system stinks... only WE are truly in control of our healthcare... don;t chintz on insurance and open your mouths when it really hurts.

    Unless its one of the 3Bs - Bones, Blood or Burns (3rd degree) stay out of the ER...

    regards all,

    Jay
     
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    Mr.Mark hit it on the head. The ER is not for a lot of the problems you are talking about. And yes, you often need a referral to see a specialist. If everyone self-referred, specialists would never get to see the people who really NEED their services. ER's are for life-threatening, time sensitive, EMERGENCIES.

    Bruce B.S., R.T.(R)(ARRT)
     
  17. Dave P

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    Two weeks ago I thought I might be having a heart attack. I had a simple pain but despite Nitro and Alprazolam wouldn't go away. Anyway I drove myself to the ER and after about 20 minutes they told me that since I was on Medicare I had to have someone to to my house and get my medicine or I would have to pay for it myself, that Medicare wouldn't. Have you ever heard of such BS. I live alone and my daughter-only child was 3 1/2 hours away. I can't wait to get the bill.
     
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    Kim I have been misdiagnosed one time but also had an emergency Dr save my life so I'm not complaining. I had 4 breaks on 3 bones in a foot and the ones reading the xrays couldn't see it I was told they didn't see anything wrong and I told the lady DR that I know they are broken I can't put any weight on it now and they sent me to a specialist. He looked at my exrays about 6 seconds when he asked me what color I wanted my cast. The ER doctors around here are so busy they just may make a small mistake about reading an xray but are pretty good about solving mystery illness. I think you should pursue the HMO who was going to let your father die of a brain tumor with legal help. My dad was done the same way and when a competent neurosurgeon looked at his MRI he told us a third year medical student could have seen the tumor and there was no excuse for missing it. Dan
     
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    Frank, take two aspirins and get a good nights sleep. BRGII
     
  20. Barry C. Roach

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    Kim, Other than discussing your Emergency Room horrors with us, do you have a greater point to your thread? I'm very sympathetic to your plight but it seems as if your heading somewhere with your discussion.

    If not, please accept my apologies in advance. I liked you dad very much, Barry Roach
     
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