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O/T BEAR PROBLEM

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  1. flybyknight

    flybyknight Member

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    My neighborhood has a problem: a bear. This bear has decided that an approximately 2 mile stretch of houses is his cafeteria. Literally every night along this stretch several house are paid a nocturnal visit. The Dept. of fish and Game states that since the bear has neither broken into a house, nor attcked anyone, this is not a substantive problem. Therefore they will not trap the bear, and state that anyone who shoots him WILL be prosecuted. Does anyone one out there have some non-lethal ideas on how to discourage this animal? I've thought about rock salt loads, but don't have a recipe for one, plus I'm not sure I want to shoot salt loads in any of my shotguns. The last time we had a bear doing this it eventually broke into a house (no one harmed at least), but it had to be destroyed. Bob K.
     
  2. Bisi

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    I gotta agree with the Marine, somebody on your street is feeding the bear. Intentional or unintentional.

    Don't shoot the bear or the government will make your whole neighborhood a living hell.

    A friend of mine lives on a lake in Texas that had a problem gator. They complained to the DNR and they wouldn't do anything. Somebody on the lake took care of the problem one night. The game wardens were livid!! Anybody who got on the lake after that in a boat was harassed by the government goons. Safety inspection, registeration, life vests, causing a wake, anything at all they would write em up for.
     
  3. crusha

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    Is it true that a .22lr would cause the bear to go away and eventually die of sepsis?


    I've heard that rumor...but just wondered if it was true or not?
     
  4. buckwheat

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    Good Advice to head in Bear Country


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  5. Jollytrapshooter

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    LOL, buckwheat, I normally don't comment on stuff like that but I was just assuming that that was just a normal sign warning people of bears...Then I got to the last sentence and started laughing so hard I almost started crying. Thanks for the laugh, Josh.
     
  6. flybyknight

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    You're absolutley right, we all are feeding this bear. He goes for the trash cans. That's why he's here. As far as getting the people in this area to lock up their trash, I don't think that will work. We just got most of them to use their trash cans (joke). But you're right, that is the correct approach. Another attractant is the fruit trees, but I'm not sure how to keep bears away from them.

    I did find some hydro-pack 12 ga ammo, as well as rubber sabots for shotguns on the internet.
     
  7. phirel

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    If you do not feed the Bear from your trash cans, the Bear will not make a mess in your yard. If the Bear makes a mess in someone else's yard, that is their problem, not yours.

    Your fruit trees? Just share a little fruit with the Bear and the Deer. I would love to have a Bear visit me every night or so. They are nice animals. Unfortunately, I have only seen one Bear in my yard over the last two years. Of course I live in a large city in Virginia (Christiansburg, population = 17,000) and I can't expect a lot of wildlife in the city.

    If you are thinking about safety, let the Bear hang around and get rid of the automobiles that travel down your road. Automobiles present a great danger, Bears present little danger, unless you happen to be an apple.

    Pat Ireland
     
  8. cubancigar2000

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    A lady walking her dog was attacked by a small bear in Caliente Ca yesterday
     
  9. Straight99

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    They also come for the BBQ grill left outside. It smells great.
     
  10. otnot

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    Once a bear finds garbage as a food source your going to have a hard time getting rid of it short of killing it. I have alway given bears one warning shot and if they come back they go on the wall. Bears don't like electric fences so you might want to install one. I use a 12 volt model at hunting camp to keep the bears out while out for the day. Bear boards work pretty good as well. You drive 16 penny nails through 3/4 plywood and place around your doors and windows. I have seen cabins wrapped in chainlink fencing, but that only slowed the bear down. You could always raise you house up on metal stilts and grease them to keep the bears from climbing up. I have seen about everything you could imagine to keep bears away and the only sure thing is to remove the food source.
     
  11. Trap4

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    Bears present little danger, UNLESS you happen to be an apple --what a stupid thing to say.

    Trap-4
     
  12. phirel

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    Trap-4- Above I stated "If you are thinking about safety, let the Bear hang around and get rid of the automobiles that travel down your road. Automobiles present a great danger, Bears present little danger, unless you happen to be an apple."

    Your comment suggests that more people are injured or killed by Bears than automobiles. If this was your thought, I would disagree. I grew up around many Rattlesnakes and now live where Bears are not uncommon. I have never thought that either were dangerous unless molested.

    Pat Ireland
     
  13. Brian in Oregon

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    Sounds like it's time for The Three S's....<br>
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    Shut up about it.
     
  14. otnot

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    Pat you might want to tell that to the people that where mauled around here this summer. Do not take chances with bears. I enjoy bears as much as anyone and my last resort is to kill one but if the fish and wildlife in your area will not relocate this animal then you are going to have to deal with it sooner or later. I have tried everything you could imagine to chase bears away.(m80's,pepper,electric fences and the only thing that worked was a rifle. Brian is right with the SSS. This summer I have had 3 brownies in my yard and luckily they all decided that the crazy man with the rifle would win and left.

    Bears are smart and very curious and are opportunity feeders. Take away the food and they will leave. Up here in Alaska they make bear proof garbage cans and it really cuts down on the bear problems.
     
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    I'm the guilty one. He'll go away as soon as my neighbors run out of cats for me to feed him.
     
  16. phirel

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    otnot- You have made a point. It appears that your larger Bears in Alaska might not be as courteous as our small Southern Black Bears. With the exception of one Black Bear that ate a girl in Tennessee last year, our Bears are quite polite, lacking only in good table manners as they eat a late dinner on someones deck.

    I still must retain my belief that a shiny Black Bear is much safer as a neighbor than a Raccoon that walks around at 11:00 AM. A person who spends some time in the woods does know to stay away from a Raccoon on the ground during the day.

    Pat Ireland
     
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  18. flybyknight

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    We tried spraying our trash cans with ammonia the last 3 days. The bear has left our cans alone while getting into the neigbors cans up and down the street. This is no small black bear, I'd estimate he's between 450 and 500 lbs. He regularly over turns dumpsters that some of our neighbors use for their trash. A bear this size is no youngster. He may just be too old to be successful foraging for "natural" food.

    Thanks for all the advice.

    BobK
     
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    Accidently drop a pot roast in some antifreeze while flushing out your radiator in a dumpster.
     
  20. otnot

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    TITWAD, you have obviously never lived around bears and seen what damage they can inflict in a matter of minutes to a home or person. Up here in Alaska if you leave your cabin for the day you better have some kind of protection from the bears or you won't have a cabin when you come back at night. Bears are smart and if they step on a nail they won't do it again and they wont' tear apart your home. I admire bears more than any predator in Alaska but once they become humanized they are dangerous. I have seen bears go through one side of a house and out the other without using the door. If it was me and I had a bear hangin around I would take care of it.

    I live in an area where the tree huggers have stopped the hunting of brown bears and they have lost the fear of man. We now have several mauling every year by brown bears of people and so far this year there have been 18 killed in defence of property. When I was a kid 40 years ago you never had problems with bears because they knew to stay away from people or they would be shot. Bears are smarter than dogs. Now I can't even let my son wander around the woods for fear of being mauled. There is no easy fix for garbage bears. Once a garbage bear always a garbage bear.
     
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