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o/t animal vets- mucho costly

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Gargoyle!, Jun 13, 2007.

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  1. Gargoyle!

    Gargoyle! TS Member

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    Second, we have a number of vets around our area and we found one that has the attiude that the animal comes first and the bill second. His prices are good. You need to go around the area you live in and find other vets and talk to them on what they charge. We have one that only the rich go to. I don't.
     
  2. ec90t

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    Check around your area for a large animal vet that also has a small animal clinic. They usually will give the animal better care for a more reasonable price.

    ec90t
     
  3. jevoliva

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    dust4fun -- that is the dirty reality when you buy your meds from mail order. 20 years ago, meds and vet services never cost this much. The price increases for vet services have increased many times over the rate of inflation and so has the price of the meds from the vet. It used to be (20 years ago) that a vet's gross sales from meds would approach 40-50% of the total gross sales. If you start buying your meds from mail order, where else is the vet to get his or her money? Simple economics. Hell, my vet bills have doubled over the last 5-8 years.

    I am a small business owner and I will continue to buy my pets meds from my vet. They employ 10-15 people for the office. How many jobs does the mail order outfit provide your local economy?

    Also, finding those vets that are "cheap" will work for another 5-10 years, but those guys will either be out of business (can't make money) or have thier license revoked (beacause they are cutting corner they legally can't in order to save the bottom line). I am all for shopping around, but if you find a vet that is charging 1/2 of what your current vet is, I would be wary. 10-25% less -- they can be more efficient in their business practices and that can account for slighter lower cost.

    As for matching the price of mail order -- man, vets are marching down the same line as the independent pharmacy. On a very basic level, the same thing happened to the independent pharmacy profession about 40 years ago what is happening to the vets now, right down to the insurance! Look around - how many vets are practicing by themselves anymore? In our area, I would say 10-20%, and almost all of these guys are 50+ years old (i.e. on the way out). We have a practice here that has 5 vets on staff and in Indy, I think the largest one I have heard of is 15. Sharing of support staff cuts down on costs and increases sales (more vets and vet techs = more patients seen = more $$).

    All of this stuff above applies to small animal practices only - large animal vets are in their own world in comparison to small animal.

    Oh yeah -- I almost forgot -- owning a small animal is almost always an independent choice. If you don't want the costs, don't own the animal. I know that sounds cold -- we get people that come into the pharmacy driving a $50,000 SUV refusing to get a medication to keep their cat alive beacuse it costs $35/month. If you can't handle the responsibility, then don't own the animal.

    Sorry, I will get off my soapbox now...

    John
     
  4. Twinbirds

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    one pill for heart worms? a lot of vets treat for heartworms when there isn't an infestation.simply a fact
     
  5. CalvinMD

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    be thankful doggies don't need Viagra!!
     
  6. JLW

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    I believe what we are seeing is a change in attitudes regarding our pets. When I was a kid,the pets were animals, not family members. Of course, then, we were a bit closer to the farm than today. Too, we had less money available to spend and spent our dollars wiser (?).

    Heartworm meds? You might want to "Google" Ivermec (ivermectin) sold by Tractor Supply as a swine wormer. My new bottle cost less than $40 and will last over two years for two dogs.

    I was informed about 7 years ago by a local breeder who had been using this product for about 15 years w/o negative results. I give 1/10cc per #11, on the dogs food, once per month. Some owners use less.-Jerald
     
  7. biggreen

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    Ivermectin is good for all but collie types and is effective on all but tapeworm.
    Jerald has the correct rate of dosage but I inject mine.
    I do all my meds minus rabies which has to be vet administered.
    Vets have also profited from the fact that so many people make their dogs "human" in about every sense of the word.
     
  8. coyote268

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    Sorry guys, but complaining about Vet care for your animals in your area is nothing compared to what you pay in good old California. Doctors, Lawyers, Mortitians and Veternarians are the highest paid so call professionals in CA. Does that tell you something, they all deal on the misery of others.
    Dan
     
  9. Bridger

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    My parents were farmers and would roll over in their graves if they knew what we have paid in vet care in the last couple of years. When I grew up our dogs never saw a vet and lived long lives. When the last crisis hit and the vet gave us the cost estimate I mentioned something about we needed to consider that this was a dog over 8 years old who had a long history of health problems. My wife gave me a look and said this was not a matter for discussion. So we paid up and the dog had a good recovery. I do think the next time we get a dog we're going to look into pet care insurance. Its not all that expensive and had we had it for these two, I'd probably have a few extra shotguns in the safe.
     
  10. ec90t

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    Wireguy,

    That is the same thing that happened to all of the small funeral homes a few years ago. A big investment group came in and bought out a lot of them. A different way to cash in on the bayboomers.

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  11. smartass

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    wireguy, try not to be such an idiot. All vets are in business to make money. Read my lips- making money is a good thing. Why is it that you like to make money, yet criticize anybody else who trys to do the same thing. Did anybody notice that this moron didn't give any facts whatever to prove his case that VCA is bad- just liberal babble about big business.
     
  12. Quack Shot

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    twinbirds

    The Heartworm medications are usually for prevention. It is usually hazardous to give them to an animal that has an active Heartworm infestation. The treatment for Heartworm comes just short of killing the animal that has the infestation. I believe they still use arsenic compounds given IV. An ounce of prevention is worth MANY pounds of cure in this instance.
     
  13. Holeinmypattern

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    Hey, my wife is in her last year of vet school at the University of Illinois and let me tell you, that education is expensive! We are going to be 200k in the hole when shes finished. So i hope she charges plenty! The farmer in me says that if you dont want to pay the price get a burlap sack and drown it or a .22 and shoot it!
     
  14. BIGDON

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    We board our dogs alot because of trap shoots. They have to have all their shots plus a couple more. It averages about $350 per dog and we live in a small town. My son who lives in a major city can just about double that for his dog. If you think Heart worm medicine is expensive check and see what it costs to cure one with no guarantees from the vet on success. I went through that with a Lab. I questioned it at the time but it was my son's dog and I was very glad afterwards that I did it. Dogs are no longer cheap just to have laying around your feet, like my two Brits are doing now.

    Don
     
  15. smartass

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    Holy cow- $350 for shots!!!!!!! It costs me about 1/3rd of that including rattlesnake vaccine. BigD must live in the northeast to pay those prices.
     
  16. smartass

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    wire, your vet doesn't love your animals (what a ludicrous thing to say), he loves your money. Talk about VCA is cheap, but where's the proof? You Kalifornians really take the cake- you think the whole world revolves around you and your animals.
     
  17. jakearoo

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    What I really love is the way the vets set you up for the fee. Assistant takes you into the room takes the temp and leaves. In comes the vet. Asks a few questions, feels the animal makes some serious sounding observations and leaves. Then in comes the assistant with the checklist. Vet "recommends we do the following" including blood tests, any other tests that could possibly apply (or not), often suggests "hydration" (injecting sterile water under the skinfor about 20 bucks) etc. If you don't do it, poor ol' Blue may die. Can't talk to the vet about this. Gotta make the decision with the assistant who is just saying what the vet suggests. Just give them your wallet. I think they teach the system in vet school. Jake
     
  18. smartass

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    wireboy, you seem to have some anger issues- typical for residents of the PRK.
     
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