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O/T .45 ACP Reloading info requested

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Mike K P, Jan 3, 2008.

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  1. Mike K P

    Mike K P Member

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    I had a post a while back on reloading questions for the .45 ACP. I am now looking to see if anyone can share reloading recipies for this cartridge that are on the lighter side such as 200 gr. or even 185 gr. bullets. I got a lot of great information last time. Thanks. Mike.
     
  2. wolfram

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    Try 4.3g of CLAYS under a 200 g lead or copper plated SWC. Very clean target load.
     
  3. Phil E

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    With the 185-gr JHP I use 6.7-gr W231, with the 200-gr cast I use 4.6-gr Hodgdon Clays, with the 225-gr cast I use 3.7-4.0-gr Clays. All with WLP primers, light practice loads, accurate in my .45's. Phil E
     
  4. Shooting Coach

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    Dear Mike

    What type of powder do you use for your shotgun loading?
     
  5. BDodd

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    .45 ACP.....Colt’s 5” Gov’t.....200 gr. H&G 68 LSWC (Moly coated).....

    4.65 gr. WST.....Win. Mixed Mil brass.....854 fps HI.....809 fps LO.....

    45 fps spread.....836 Mean.....12 Stan. Deviation......

    Oehler - Power factor = 167,200 - Great practice load.

    Test from 12 years ago....Bob Dodd
     
  6. Mike K P

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    I had a post a while back on reloading questions for the .45 ACP. I am now looking to see if anyone can share reloading recipies for this cartridge that are on the lighter side such as 200 gr. or even 185 gr. bullets. I got a lot of great information last time. Thanks. Mike.
     
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    Try 4.3g of CLAYS under a 200 g lead or copper plated SWC. Very clean target load.
     
  8. Phil E

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    With the 185-gr JHP I use 6.7-gr W231, with the 200-gr cast I use 4.6-gr Hodgdon Clays, with the 225-gr cast I use 3.7-4.0-gr Clays. All with WLP primers, light practice loads, accurate in my .45's. Phil E
     
  9. Shooting Coach

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    Dear Mike

    What type of powder do you use for your shotgun loading?
     
  10. BDodd

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    .45 ACP.....Colt’s 5” Gov’t.....200 gr. H&G 68 LSWC (Moly coated).....

    4.65 gr. WST.....Win. Mixed Mil brass.....854 fps HI.....809 fps LO.....

    45 fps spread.....836 Mean.....12 Stan. Deviation......

    Oehler - Power factor = 167,200 - Great practice load.

    Test from 12 years ago....Bob Dodd
     
  11. Mike K P

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    Hi Shooting coach, I use clays powder for my shotgun reloading.
    Mike.
     
  12. PLTT

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    Clay would not be my choice for 45acp. I have loaded alot of different powders for 45acp and have been very happy with Winchester Super Target. Mark R.
     
  13. Mike K P

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    Hi Mark, I'm open to suggestions to loads as my post stated. My mentioning clays was a response to shooting coaches question as to what powder I load my shotgun shells with. I would be interested to know what you might suggest. Thanks, Mike.
     
  14. PLTT

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    For reliable feeding Taper Crimp at .471
    200gr. LSWC, 4.9 grains Super Target, 1.250 overall length,
    200gr. FP Copper plated, 5.1 grains Super target, 1.200 overall length,
    230gr. LRN, 4.2 grains Super Target, 1.265 overall length,
    230gr. FMJ, 4.6 grains Super Target, 1.265 overall length,
    These are the loads I use for pratical pistol matches. Mark R.
     
  15. ccw1911

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    Clays is ok in 45 but it is a little touchy, you can have a big pressure increase with a very small increase in powder charge. My favorite all around 45 acp load is 5.2 of WW 231 and a 200 H&G68 lead hardcast swc. Never saw a 45 it wouldn't group good in. Tightgroup works good too.
     
  16. Tim Lee

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    My favorite bullseye load is 4.8g of W231/HP38 under a 200g SWC. Very mild recoil and VERY accurate out of every .45 I've tried it in.

    I have occasionally bumped it up to 5.0g to get one particular .45 to eject/cycle consistently for a timed/rapid fire course (I didn't want to modify/change the spring). Didn't seem to negatively affect the grouping, and I didn't really notice a difference in recoil.

    I did try a similar powder load with 185g Plated RNL bullets, but couldn't get it to group nearly as nice. Also had to bump it up to 5.2+ of W231/HP38 to get it to cycle the action.... Went back to the 200g SWC bullet instead.

    my .02,

    -Tim
     
  17. Shooting Coach

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    Dear Mike

    Clays will work well for lighter "softball" loads for your 1911.

    For the 185 grain bullet, 3.8 gr will get around 780. 4.5 gr will get over 900.

    For the 200 grainer, 3.6 gr will get around 760. 4.3 gr will get almost 900.

    If I were going to load Clays, I would use 4 gr with the 185, and 3.8 for the 200. I personally use Titegroup.

    I like an 18 lb recoil spring in a Govt' model. For these light loads, you might need a 16 pounder. Over four decades of experience and about a million rounds through the 1911 in competition has given me the knowldge to keep things simple with this old warhorse. An accurate, reliable big bore 1911 is about the most pleasurable handgun to shoot of all autos. I still prefer the revolvers, partly because I am a hull scrounger, and also because my first sidearm was a wheelgun.

    Most 1911's like to spray brass. They can be tuned for consistent ejection by using an extended ejector. I like a full length two piece guide rod, and a recoil buffer. My "seasoned" 1911 Limited has over 1/2 million rounds through it, and is still tight and accurate. Minor parts have been replaced, but slide and frame are no worse for wear. I like the Springfield Armory pistols.

    I still suggest the 200 gr Cowboy bullet made for the 45 Colt. Seat the bullet to the top of the cannelure and use a separate crimp die. I like the Lee factory crimp die. Setting your dies with a chamber gauge will simplify things. Change out the lockring on the Lee dies if you are not going to use a Lee turret press, where the dies are not removed.
     
  18. les morgan

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    The above are good recommendations. I have recently been trying out VV N320 powder with good results based on a recommendation from Bill Wilson of WilsonCombat. There are some good discussions of 45 and 40sw loads on Brian Enos's web site brianenos.com/forums
     
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    I shot a lot of Bullseye matches with a 45 I loaded 185gr. lead semi-wad cutter bullets with 3.5gr. of Bullseye powder until I put a aim point type site on the slid then I had to increase to 3.8. They always shot very good groups for me.

    Bob Lawless
     
  20. scottheid

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    Do yourself a favor and buy a good reloading book. I would go by what the book says, and not what info you get here. Scott
     
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