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O/T .223 bullet weights

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by BIGbill, Oct 30, 2008.

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  1. BIGbill

    BIGbill TS Member

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    I have a Bushmaster Varmint special in 223 and I am wondering if anybody has found ammunition that these things love. I have only tried 45 and 55 grain bullets (factory remington) but will try anything if someone has had some good luck. thus far have tried hornady and remington factory ammo, and have not been blown away yet.

    I don't have the time to handload for this one, so if you have a secret load conjured up for the Bushie, it won't do me any good. May help somebody else, so feel free to post.

    the Bushie is 223 24 inch barrel with 1 in 9 twist. Have been thinking about some heavier bullets, maybe up to 70 or 80 grains.

    Appreciate the help.

    Bill
     
  2. BIGbill

    BIGbill TS Member

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    I have a Bushmaster Varmint special in 223 and I am wondering if anybody has found ammunition that these things love. I have only tried 45 and 55 grain bullets (factory remington) but will try anything if someone has had some good luck. thus far have tried hornady and remington factory ammo, and have not been blown away yet.

    I don't have the time to handload for this one, so if you have a secret load conjured up for the Bushie, it won't do me any good. May help somebody else, so feel free to post.

    the Bushie is 223 24 inch barrel with 1 in 9 twist. Have been thinking about some heavier bullets, maybe up to 70 or 80 grains.

    Appreciate the help.

    Bill
     
  3. Dove Commander

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    Try the Winchester 55 grain silver tips or the Remington 55gr Accutip. The UMC 55 gr shoot good too. Check the thread ".223/5.56 question". Shooting Coach has alot of experience too.
     
  4. Brian in Oregon

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    Unless you're shooting out around 600 yards, forget the 60 to 62 grainers. The 55 grainers are flatter shooting and have higher velocity until you get out to around that distance. It's at this longer range that the 24" barrel is useful to wring velocity out of the 60+ grainers. I don't think it's necessary for lighter bullets at closer ranges.<br>
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    Myself, I stick with the 55 grainers for just about everything.
     
  5. Shooting Coach

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    Your 1-9" twist is the best one for the Patrol Rifle. They like bullets around 55 gr to under 75 gr. The VERY light bullets are best for devastating, non penetrating wounds at under 100 yards. As you have found out, fast twists and light bullets are not a good match. And, those little bullets lose speed like an overloaded bus going uphill.

    As was mentioned before, try some commercial 55 gr soft points. Winchester White box and such will likely group at or near 1 MOA, not a barn burner. Remington's Power Lokt ammo uses a match grade bullet. I hate to see you paying a buck a round for accurate ammo. How far are you wanting to shoot?

    Too bad you don't load for it. The AR platform is very cheap to load for once you understand its needs.
     
  6. WarEagle2017

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    Shooting Coach is correct stick with the 55 Grain Bullets, the 223 was built around the 55 gr buller with a 1-9 twist 1-10 and 1-12 twist will work better with 40 -42 Gr Bullets, it seems that the heaverier bullets need more twist to stableize them
     
  7. Barrelbulge(Fl)

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    I seem to do very well with Federal Gold Match with a 69 gr. bullet. Less than 3/4" at 100 with 5 shots. Bulge
     
  8. sasquach

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    Shooting Coach, in your opinion, what is the heaviest bullet that a 1-9" twist will stabilize at .220 Swift velosities?
     
  9. RogerNRA

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    I shoot 60g Bergers in my Savage 1 in 9 barrel. Praire dogs just love them........Roger
     
  10. sammyd95

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    my colt 1/7 shoots 55grs better than my colt 1/9,,so gues you just have 2 keep trying.everything i read says around 63gr max for the 1/9 tist rate,but as far as varments out to 200 yds or so 55gr wokr just fine in either,if you are not shooting for the million$ I would stick with 55gr.
     
  11. sasquach

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    Been kicking the idea around about building a long range .224 varmint-deer rifle but am not sure what twist to go with. The option of shooting 55gr. would be nice,but I have several others that will do that. I have never talked to any one who shot 55gr. in a 7" twist. Am open to suggestions.
     
  12. Jimmy E

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    What distance are you looking to shoot at primarily with this rifle? .223 isn't the greatest long-range round but it can work for you. I've got mine sighted at 200 yards and only shoot it to about 400 yards. Beyond that it's too slow and the bullets get bucked around by the wind. For plinking I've had fantastic results with Remington UMC 55 grainers and they are mutha-cheap to boot. That 1-9 twist barrel is a bit of an odd duck in that it will favour heavier projectiles over longer distances. My .223 is a 1-12 and just loves the 40gr. nosler ballistic tips. I get .750" at 200 with the 55gr UMC and .500" at 200 with the 40gr. noslers. Try the federal v-shock varmint loads. Very accurate factory ammo with the ballistic tips.
    Jimmy
     
  13. sammyd95

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    as i stated b4 ,I put 5 rounds in2 a quarter at 100 yards iron sites with my 1/7 with 55 grain bullets,seems to shoot just fine.
     
  14. Sky Buster

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    Bill:

    I shot my new Rock River Coyote yesterday. It has a 1/9 and shot 3/8"
    with Black Hills 75 grain hollow points. It did not do as well with
    50, 52 or 55 grain bullets. Pick up an assortment of weights and see
    what the gun likes.
     
  15. Bird30

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    Bigbill are you getting ready for the revolution? I am ready! The one in nine
    twist is made for the heavy bullets 60 thru 75 grains. It will not stabilize the 40 thru 50 grain bullets. The 40 thru 50 grains need a one in twelve or a one in fourteen twist. Trust me.

    Dave
     
  16. BIGbill

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    Thanks for all the advice fellas. I know I would be better off to hand load, but I just don't have the time to do it.

    Not getting ready for the revolution Bird 30,but know it is coming.
    Seems like I might have the time to shoot a few holes in a paper target now and then rather than trying to make it to a trap shoot once a year. Lord knows I miss the clay target shooting and the BSing afterwards, but my kids are worth missing the shoots for.

    I'll try some heavier bullets and see how I do.

    Bill Payne
     
  17. BIGbill

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    Thanks for all the advice fellas. I know I would be better off to hand load, but I just don't have the time to do it.

    Not getting ready for the revolution Bird 30,but know it is coming.
    Seems like I might have the time to shoot a few holes in a paper target now and then rather than trying to make it to a trap shoot once a year. Lord knows I miss the clay target shooting and the BSing afterwards, but my kids are worth missing the shoots for.

    I'll try some heavier bullets and see how I do.

    Bill Payne
     
  18. BIGbill

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    Thanks for all the advice fellas. I know I would be better off to hand load, but I just don't have the time to do it.

    Not getting ready for the revolution Bird 30,but know it is coming.
    Seems like I might have the time to shoot a few holes in a paper target now and then rather than trying to make it to a trap shoot once a year. Lord knows I miss the clay target shooting and the BSing afterwards, but my kids are worth missing the shoots for.

    I'll try some heavier bullets and see how I do.

    Bill Payne
     
  19. BIGbill

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    Thanks for all the advice fellas. I know I would be better off to hand load, but I just don't have the time to do it.

    Not getting ready for the revolution Bird 30,but know it is coming.
    Seems like I might have the time to shoot a few holes in a paper target now and then rather than trying to make it to a trap shoot once a year. Lord knows I miss the clay target shooting and the BSing afterwards, but my kids are worth missing the shoots for.

    I'll try some heavier bullets and see how I do.

    Bill Payne
     
  20. BIGbill

    BIGbill TS Member

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    Thanks for all the advice fellas. I know I would be better off to hand load, but I just don't have the time to do it.

    Not getting ready for the revolution Bird 30,but know it is coming.
    Seems like I might have the time to shoot a few holes in a paper target now and then rather than trying to make it to a trap shoot once a year. Lord knows I miss the clay target shooting and the BSing afterwards, but my kids are worth missing the shoots for.

    I'll try some heavier bullets and see how I do.

    Bill Payne
     
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