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Northwest Shot troubles with DEQ

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  1. ThorsDad

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    Just read in the paper they got hit with a $25,000 fine , hope they can overcome this . Jay
     
  2. Ajax

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    Jay, did the article say what exactly the fine was for?

    Ajax
     
  3. Joe Potosky

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    Lead shot maker fined for waste violations

    Associated Press - June 5, 2007 6:45 PM ET

    PORTLAND, Ore. (AP) - A lead smelting and manufacturing plant near Medford has been fined nearly $25,000 for hazardous waste management and disposal violations.

    Northwest Shot Manufacturing of Phoenix takes waste lead pellets collected from shotgun ranges in southern Oregon and Northern California and melts them into ingots that are reprocessed back into lead shot.

    The Oregon Department of Environmental Quality says the bulk of the fine was disposing of hazardous lead waste at an unpermitted site.

    Company owner Larry Stockman says he has filed notice of appeal and has scheduled a meeting with DEQ officials to discuss the case.

    State investigators said Northwest Shot had been improperly disposing of the waste from 1994 through 2006. They said waste lead dross, or scum on the surface of molten metal, and dust generated from manufacturing was discharged on the ground outside the plant.

    Lead can cause serious health problems in people and animals.
     
  4. Jennifer

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    Here's another, similar variation of the story:

    News Release
    For release: June 5, 2007

    Contacts:
    Regina Cutler, Office of Compliance & Enforcement, Portland, (503) 229-5058
    Brian White, Communications and Outreach, Portland, (503) 229-6044

    DEQ Penalizes Jackson County-based Lead Smelting and Manufacturing Facility $24,780 for Hazardous Waste Violations

    Lead wastes improperly disposed of from 1994 to 2006 at Phoenix site

    The Oregon Department of Environmental Quality (DEQ) has fined Northwest Shot Manufacturing Inc., of Phoenix, a total of $24,780 in penalties for hazardous waste disposal and management violations at its waste lead smelting and manufacturing facility at 1526 Camp Baker Road.



    Northwest Shot operates its facility in a mixed residential and rural area south of Medford, and generates a variety of lead wastes. As a primary source material for its smelting and manufacturing operations, the company uses waste lead pellets collected from shooting ranges in southern Oregon and northern California. The facility receives the waste lead pellets mixed with sand and/or soil and stores them on site. Recyclable lead is separated from the soil. Once separated, the lead is melted into ingots and further processed into lead shots.



    DEQ hazardous waste specialists made an inspection of the facility on Nov. 1, 2006 and noted several hazardous waste management violations, including illegal storage and disposal of hazardous waste, and failure to determine if wastes stored on site were hazardous.



    Soil samples taken from the site during the inspection showed significantly elevated levels of lead contamination throughout Northwest Shot’s manufacturing and waste storage areas. DEQ officials were particularly concerned to learn that lead wastes were disposed of on the ground. Because lead is a persistent bioaccumulative toxin, it poses a long-term threat to wildlife and human health and has been linked to brain and kidney damage. DEQ does encourage the recycling of lead shot when done properly. However, by failing to manage and properly dispose of the wastes, the company increased the risk that lead toxins could spread in the environment.



    The bulk of the penalty ($19,042) was for disposing of hazardous waste (lead wastes) at a site other than a permitted hazardous waste site. In its investigation, DEQ learned that Northwest Shot had been improperly disposing of the waste at its site as far back as January 1994. The remainder of the penalty amount ($5,738) was for failing to determine whether or not the lead wastes produced on site were hazardous.



    Northwest Shot has until June 11 to appeal the penalty.
     
  5. jnoemanh

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    Good grief. They could have legally disposed of their lead dross for a very minimal cost. I would have thought by now everyone was aware that they'd face stiff penalties when (not if) they get caught. The good news for them is that if they appeal, they'll be offered a chance to settle for 30 to 50 cents on the dollar. If they can't afford that, they don't deserve to be in business.

    There's a boatload of money in reclaiming shot from skeet/trap fields. the last time our club was mined (1998) the value of lead reclaimed was $150,000. the club got $60K, the reclaimer $90. We'll reclaim again next year. At today's prices, there ought to be well over $250K in lead. At the 3-day shoot two weeks ago over a ton of shot hit the ground.
     
  6. phirel

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    jnoemanh- How much would it cost the company to dispose of the "hazardous waste"?

    And, if there is a "boat load" of money to be made reclaiming shot and making new shot from the lead, why are not more companies doing it?

    And, why does a company "not deserve to be in business" if it does not have an extra sum of free cash to pay fines?

    Pat Ireland
     
  7. russp72

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    I'd like to see some documentation proving that lead in any form is harmful to
    human beings,(beans). Of course if you should happen to get shot, you may die
    of lead poisoning.

    Russ
     
  8. revsublime

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    Lead poisoning has been well documented for quite some time now...

    a Johns Hopkins report by Tomas Guilarte stated:

    It has been known for some time that lead is a potent inhibitor of the NMDA receptor, a protein known to play an important role in brain development and cognition. In this study we demonstrate that lead exposure decreased the amount of NMDA receptor gene and protein in a part of the brain called the hippocampus.[11]

    Ezra Susser and his colleagues at Columbia University in New York followed 12,000 children born in Oakland, California, between 1959 and 1966, whose mothers had given samples of blood serum while they were pregnant, which were frozen and stored for later analysis. They found that children who had been exposed to high levels of lead in the womb were more than twice as likely to go on to develop schizophrenia. Their research was presented at the 2004 annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Seattle, Washington.
     
  9. Beancounter

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    real lead poisoning occurs when standing on the wrong side of a gun.
     
  10. jnoemanh

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    Good grief. They could have legally disposed of their lead dross for a very minimal cost. I would have thought by now everyone was aware that they'd face stiff penalties when (not if) they get caught. The good news for them is that if they appeal, they'll be offered a chance to settle for 30 to 50 cents on the dollar. If they can't afford that, they don't deserve to be in business.

    There's a boatload of money in reclaiming shot from skeet/trap fields. the last time our club was mined (1998) the value of lead reclaimed was $150,000. the club got $60K, the reclaimer $90. We'll reclaim again next year. At today's prices, there ought to be well over $250K in lead. At the 3-day shoot two weeks ago over a ton of shot hit the ground.
     
  11. phirel

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    jnoemanh- How much would it cost the company to dispose of the "hazardous waste"?

    And, if there is a "boat load" of money to be made reclaiming shot and making new shot from the lead, why are not more companies doing it?

    And, why does a company "not deserve to be in business" if it does not have an extra sum of free cash to pay fines?

    Pat Ireland
     
  12. russp72

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    I'd like to see some documentation proving that lead in any form is harmful to
    human beings,(beans). Of course if you should happen to get shot, you may die
    of lead poisoning.

    Russ
     
  13. revsublime

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    Lead poisoning has been well documented for quite some time now...

    a Johns Hopkins report by Tomas Guilarte stated:

    It has been known for some time that lead is a potent inhibitor of the NMDA receptor, a protein known to play an important role in brain development and cognition. In this study we demonstrate that lead exposure decreased the amount of NMDA receptor gene and protein in a part of the brain called the hippocampus.[11]

    Ezra Susser and his colleagues at Columbia University in New York followed 12,000 children born in Oakland, California, between 1959 and 1966, whose mothers had given samples of blood serum while they were pregnant, which were frozen and stored for later analysis. They found that children who had been exposed to high levels of lead in the womb were more than twice as likely to go on to develop schizophrenia. Their research was presented at the 2004 annual meeting of the American Association for the Advancement of Science in Seattle, Washington.
     
  14. Beancounter

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    real lead poisoning occurs when standing on the wrong side of a gun.
     
  15. perazzitms

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    Lead is not a poison. Lead OXIDE is. The 'lead' in lead paint is not in fact lead, it's lead OXIDE.

    Hold a piece of #6 shot in your hands - see, you're not going to die of lead poisoning. Eat the damn thing -- nope, not dead yet.

    Lead is present in nature. Does that mean the some enviro-wacko should be afraid to take his moonlight walk through the woods for fear of lead poisoning.


    That's the one thing that pisses me off most about reporters and the media. They went to school to learn the difference between 'there' and 'their'. They're not chemists, scientists, economists, or even sane for that matter. Funny how they're allowed to write a column without noting they in fact don't know a thing about which they write.
     
  16. omahasportingsupply

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    WANTED: 55 gallons drums
    of reclaimed lead. Prefer clean.
    Will pick up if reasonable distance from Omaha NE. USA.


    If you don't think that lead has any effect on the system, please reread the
    thread (here on TS.com) called "Does it have A/C". It is either lead
    poisoning or sniffing to much Freon.
    LOL


    Pat, I know there are immense paperwork issues in dealing with lead
    while working with the EPA and state officials. Many ranges are closed up
    and the lead is never removed. Chemicals from soil and fertilizers start
    combining to make something else. I was under the impression that we are
    not that far away from each range needing a plan to have the lead removed
    periodically. Garland Sears told me that he got only a small part of Ohio
    done last year due to the wet weather. I know it is
    HOT and DIRTY work. How
    much money does it take to setup the equipment like that? Is anybody out
    there making reclaiming machines or is it all custom built? Are we not
    insuring the sport continues by regularly mining the fields we shoot
    competitions and practices on? Are we not putting money in the clubs pockets by
    converting the dead lead into live
    GREEN $$$
    ? I have seen pictures and read
    articles but have never seen a movie of a machine in action. The Chicago
    area people like a guy who mines by using a barge with a gold dredge and were
    happy with him. Said his lead was almost ready to tumble. It seems
    like a problem is coming in the future and this will unite the anti guns and the
    environmentalist against us. We could manage it ourselves, keep our clubs
    open, and have the profits from the recycled lead to replace the windows in our
    clubhouse ( they are pretty). Just my thoughts but I am interested in
    heading this off before it becomes an issue. IMHO Email me directly
    if you are worried about flamers. Thanks for you input.

     
  17. Brian in Oregon

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    The problem supposedly is not with lead contamination per se, but with permitting, at least according to NW Shot. He says that he went to the state and federal agencies and told them what he was doing, and asked for help in getting all the permits done right. His site was inspected and approved. Then, shortly after he started operation, apparently the rules changed and he was not told about it.<br>
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    He claims that he should have been told of the new rules, and he would have complied accordingly.<br>
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    The state's view is that it is incumbant on businesses to know the rules and make sure they're in compliance. The oft used quote, "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" is how they view this.<br>
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    All I can say to him is "good luck", you're going to need it.
     
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