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NobleSport Primers

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by JPM, Mar 12, 2013.

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  1. JPM

    JPM Member

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    I know that this has been covered before but I didn't pay any attention because it was never going to apply to me. But now it applies to me. I have an opportunity to obtain Noblesport primers at a very favorable price but I don't find any reloading data from Alliant - and I only use Alliant powders. I've sent an e-mail to Alliant asking about equivalencies with other primers but I'd be interested in the opinions of those of you who have experience with these primers. Thanks, in advance. JPM
     
  2. Kevin Fleming

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    Only 10K's worth of experience.... Noblesports are good primers but about the largest available. Once you put them in an empty hull, you won't be able to use anything else in that hull. Also, I found them difficult to use in STS, Gun Clubs. Alliant will probably tell you you can use Win209 data.

    K
     
  3. Unknown1

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    Alliant's reloading data used to contain statement that the NS primer could be directly substituted for the Winchester primer in any formula in their data base and I think it's still true.

    The only primer harder to stuff into a hull WITH A PW PRESS is the Rio primer which is even bigger than the Nobel. I have taken to resizing and pre-priming a couple buckets full of Gun Club hulls with an old Lee Load-All when I have time. I unscrew the pin from the primer knockout (station 2 of the press) to run them through the loader. They are a bit easier to stuff into STS and other brass-based hulls since the brass hole expands easier.

    People who load with a MEC should have less trouble inserting them because of the way the MEC supports the hull while installing the primer.

    Keller
     
  4. Brady509

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    Are you able to go back to a American primer say federals after ya use Fiocchi primers?

    Brady
     
  5. SL900LOADER

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    Funny i just read a little artical about this subject as i had the same question, They shoot soft and easy, lower pressure then many others, some people here have said they dont like cold weather but ive been shooting them about 4-5 years with no problems.

    go to" http://www.armbrust.acf2.org/bargainprimer.htm "

    If you do a web search you can find much more detailed articals by this guy, but this one is short and sweet,

    Ive been using nobiles for all my recipies and could never tell any difference.
     
  6. psfive

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    We have loaded around twenty thousand of them for trap and hunting. We use a MEC and have never had a problem. In central Nebraska (it gets cold here) and never had one not go off when the trigger is pulled. Once in a while one will complain about being pushed into a Gun Club hull I just push harder. We have always used Win 209 load data. If the price is right you can't go wrong. Paul in GINebraska.
     
  7. mike b.

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    Been through 20k and can't remember a misfire. The first use you have to push a little harder (MEC), but after that all is fine. Win. data works well. When you near the end of your supply, you can start again with once fired hulls.(so far for me that has taken over 2 years and have 6k to go). mb
     
  8. okiefarmer

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    I am done loading for the year and have three sleeves of them left. I will sell for $100 each plus shipping if anyone needs them.
     
  9. hoot619

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    PM sent I would like 1 kind of depends on total price with shipping. That and and hasmat fee could make me cancel. Ken U Thanks anyway Ron ,Ken
     
  10. rdf59

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    I've loaded 50,000+ Noblesports. NO BAD ONES. 90% in STS and 10% in Federal/Estates. Powders have been 80% 700x and 20% Titewad. You can use the mixings for Win 209 primers. You can't go back to the Wins once you use Noblesports because they are larger. Definitely the ones to use considering the price.
     
  11. slide action

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    They work great. Only problem is they are tad bigger than regular 209 size primers. as stated above if you try to put in a regular 209 behid them, it will fall out.
     
  12. School Teacher

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    I use them in Federal Gold Medal Paper and Plastic hulls. They go in and stay in so whats the problem. Add 19.5 grains of Green Dot, a 12S3 clone and 1 1/8 oz. of mag 7 1/2's and I get a good 1145 fps load.

    Once I use them in a Federal hull, I keep on using them in the same hull.

    Cheddites are for STS hulls.

    Ed Ward
     
  13. Unknown1

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    <blockquote><I>"Cheddites are for STS hulls."</I></blockquote>What a terrible insult to an STS hull!

    Keller
     
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    Keller:

    Cheddites fit into a STS hull just fine.

    Add 16.9 grains of E3, an OEM Remington TGT12 wad and 1 oz. of magnum 8's and you get a dandy 16 yard load.

    With the cost and hard to find nature of Remington 209P's, I switched to Cheddites for STS hulls about 3 years ago.

    Ed Ward
     
  15. JPM

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    Just heard back today from Ben at Alliant. He wrote that I could use Noblesport primers as a substitute for Winchester 209's "if I wish." JPM
     
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    <blockquote><I>"What a terrible insult to an STS hull!"</i><blockquote><I>"Cheddites fit into a STS hull just fine."</I></blockquote></i></blockquote>I wasn't questioning whether they fit or not...I was marveling that STS hulls would hold still long enough to let themselves be loaded with Cheddite primers!

    Keller
     
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    Keller:

    STS hulls are notoriously unfaithful and will "sleep" with just about any brand of primer. I had one the other day tell me that "the bigger the better".

    Ed Ward
     
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