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Nobel Sports Primers 209 Reload

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by capt jay, Nov 7, 2010.

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  1. capt jay

    capt jay Member

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    I have a Box of NSI Primers 209/686 I would like to reload them ...just what type are they like....Win 209 or Rem 209 ....or Rem 209P would like to reload them with 1 1/8oz in Rem game load 12 ga...700x.... Rem Wad's ... #9 Shot

    Thanks
     
  2. Pacemaker

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    I use them with the same recipe as Rem 209
     
  3. chipking

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    These are listed as a direct sub for winchester 209 on the Alliant website I believe. Thats how I use them.

    --- Chip King ---
     
  4. Unknown1

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    <blockquote><i>"These are listed as a direct sub for winchester 209 on the Alliant website I believe."</i></blockquote>They USED TO BE listed that way in the print version of Alliant's reloading data. No more.

    That statement and the wad substitution chart that used to be above it have been removed from the data.

    Either Alliant changed their policies about recommendations or Nobel changed their primers. Alliant can tell you which.

    The only "special information" Alliant now publishes about primers is: <center>
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    MK
     
  5. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    capt jay:

    They are just like a Nobel Sport 209. You can access a reloader's guide for Nobel Sports at dkgtrading.com. Unfortunately, all the data calls for Hodgdon powders. 700X aint a listed option.

    sissy
     
  6. Pull & Mark

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    Sissy, All of IMR's powders have been listed on Hodgdon's website for several years now. Hodgdon bought out IMR a few years back now. I still use Win. AA primers data and substitute the Nobels Sport primers for it. I have had no problems. If you want to do this and the data you want is near the top pressure I would verify the load with the powder company first, otherwise you should be fine. Break-em all. Jeff
     
  7. Mark425

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    Alliant listed them a subs for Win 209's NOT Remington. I have email responses form both Alliant and Hogdgon stating the the NS 209's are direct replacements for WIN 209 primers.

    Might want to email Alliant and get the answer for your own peace of mind. They will answer your question in 24 hours or so.

    Mark

    p.s. Link to NS data: http://www.dkgtrading.com/nobelsport/graphics/loading.pdf
    As you can see it is a direct copy using Win 209's.
     
  8. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Hi Jeff:

    For purposes of clarity...

    I'm aware Hodgdon's on-line Reloading Data Center lists IMR, Winchester, and Hodgdon powders. However, Hodgdon's site lists each as a separate "Manufacturer". Data queries can specify any one of the three or "All" of them.

    My post was referencing a reloading guide on a different website - namely, dkgtrading.com. It is a NobelSportItalia site with a guide using only Nobel Sport primers. Nobel Sports' guide is limited to Hodgdon powders - Clays, Titewad, Titegroup, International, Universal, Longshot, HS-6, and HS-7.

    It doesn't list data for powders labeled IMR, Winchester, Alliant, or any other manufacturer.

    To the best of my knowledge, there is no current industry source that describes Nobel Sport 209 primers as an acceptable substitution for ANY other primer. Unless or until an industry source makes such an endorsement, I won't be substituting them for anything.

    Peace and safe loading.

    sissy

    Edited addition... Hi Mark, how recent are your emails from Hodgdon and Alliant??
     
  9. blacklab

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    I have talked to the head of the lab at Hodgdon and he said you can use the data for Win209 when reloading Nobel Sport primers. They are an exact match in everyway execpt size.
     
  10. Mark425

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    Recoil Sissy,

    My emails from Alliant and Hodgdon are within the last 6-8 months.
     
  11. ron (vt)

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    Check out this link regarding Nobel, PMC, RIO's versus Winchester primers.

    Ron
     
  12. Recoil Sissy

    Recoil Sissy Well-Known Member

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    Mark425:

    Thanks!

    sissy
     
  13. Unknown1

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    Interesting article by Tom, but the data in it is more than 4 years old.

    MK
     
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