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Nobel Sport Primers

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by gwdomi, Aug 16, 2010.

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  1. gwdomi

    gwdomi Member

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    Anyone had any trouble out of Nobel Sport Primers. I had 6 duds yesterday out of 25. Don't think they are hot enough to fire longshot powder.
     
  2. tallpaul

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    No problems here. They're a little tight going into Rem STS .410 hulls the first time, but other than that, I like them for the price. Haven't had a dud yet.
     
  3. Chipmaker

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    use them by the thousands and not had trouble and will continue to use them. You may have other issues. By duds do you mean it did not light at all or you got a funny sounding shell. If the shell sounded funny you may have cocked the wad base upon inserting into the hull. Pretty common thing to do when I see any coming off
    press with a wrinkle or a bulge into the junk box they go. Most still will light but I will use them for practice, or if they are real bad they get cut apart with the shell cutter.
     
  4. goatskin

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    What gauge, and what were your components & load?

    As a 'ball' powder, LS is not the easiest thing to light, true, but 6 pooky loads is strange, indeed, and genuine FTF (duds) is unheard-of.
     
  5. Rebsmith

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    They work fairly well until the temperature goes below 40 degrees. They're like me, they don't like to be cold.

    Jere
     
  6. GoldEx

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    Have used them with no problems. Loaded using WIN 209 DATA and never looked back.

    Jeff
     
  7. gwdomi

    gwdomi Member

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    20 gauge 18.4 Long Shot - Windjammer Wad - STS Hull
    I weight all my powder so that's not the problem.
    The duds sound like the primer is not firing the powder.
    After the dud you can see unused powder in the barrel
    Thanks Gary Domi.
     
  8. goatskin

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    Gary, that sounds more like a mechanical issue. LS is not the cleanest powder in the world, but if it lights at all ... there should not be much/any unburned powder in the barrel.

    Regardless of how they sounded, did the shot break the bird? the wad go past your shoelaces? etc.

    Check for your primers may have gotten wet, or maybe sprayed with WD-40 or something. Shells may have been wet? Condensation? yanno, from inside an A/C house to you hot, humid garage and you filled them up right quick?

    A 'fizzler' primer will cause what you described, but they don't much happen out-of-the-box ... and NEVER 6 in 25.

    Another possible explanation is wet powder. Did you leave the lid off the jug, or leave it in your unplugged-up loader for a few weeks? Powder WILL absorb water, and it can be both sporadic and hard to light.


    Bob
     
  9. boris7

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    I have loaded about 1K of nobels and found four or five with no charge. Noticed them all, hopefully, when loading them into the primer tray. Love the Hornady primer tray!

    Chris
     
  10. cubancigar2000

    cubancigar2000 Well-Known Member

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    I bought 5,000, gave 3000 away. Yes I had a lot of no fires and especially in cold weather not to mention they enlarge the primer hole so you cannot go back to federals or win or remmys. I consider them junk
     
  11. creek

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    I have loaded many thousands of Noble primers and have had zero problems. When I loaded Winchester 209's I had several duds.

    When you see the bottom of a Noble that is missing the red filler, it doesn't maan that it is not charged; they go bang just as good as the ones with the red filler.

    John
     
  12. School Teacher

    School Teacher Well-Known Member

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    I load a Federal Gold Medal plastic hull with 19.3 grains of Green Dot, a Nobel Sport 209 primer, a Claybuster 12S3 wad and 1 1/8 oz of magnum 7 1/2's.

    To date I have shot over 10,000 of these with no problems in all kinds of weather.

    The load shoots soft, hits hard and to me shoots like the original Federal Extra-Lite load which was around 1125 fps.

    I really like these primers, especially the price and availability. I have had no misfires.

    Ed Ward
     
  13. Big Al 29

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    Switch to Rio if you are looking for a good economical primer.

    Over 15k without a missfire.

    Still the cheapest primer in my area 104/5k.

    Called Miller's in Delaware for prices and Nobel primers were 140.00 per 5k so i drove to Richland's for this year's supplies as always and got Rio's for 104.

    Nobel primers were the cheapest primer at Miller's. What a rip off. Should have never called them.
     
  14. DanLee

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    Nobelsport 209 primers will stretch primer pockets. Not a problem if you keep using them in that hull. They are harder than American primers, i.e., unreliable with a light-hitting firing pin. Same goes for Wolf 209 primers (though the Wolf primer does not stretch pockets). I like Cheddite 209 primers as an economical substitute for Winchester 209s.

    Dan
     
  15. Pull & Mark

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    Try adding another 3-4 tens of a grain of powder and see if that helps? Break-em all. Jeff
     
  16. higun

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    Larger than 209's. A real PITA in my opinion. I had no ignition problems with the 1M I loaded.

    I traded 9000 of them (plus some cash) to get real W209.
     
  17. Mark425

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    Just opened my latest case of Noble Sport's .... that makes over 25,000 so far. Can only remember one misfire. Was it the primer or something else ...dont know...was in the middle of a shoot and no time to check. Shot them when in every type of weather...hot, cold, wet, dry.....no problems.


    Load - (very tight pattern)
    Rem Hulls;
    18.4 Claydot Powder;
    Noble Sport Primer;
    Downrange XL-1 Wad;
    1250 fps @9000psi

    Do they stretch the pocket? I dont know or care...the last two primers I would buy is a Win or Rem. They are so overpriced with NO performance advantage....what's the purpose?
     
  18. JerryP

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    I have had no trouble with Nobel Sport primers.

    gwdomi , If the wad exited the shell, it isn't a primer fault.

    For $99 vs $145 for Win, I don't care if they stretch the primer pocket.
     
  19. skeet100

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    I have loaded many 1000's.... I have had issues in really cold weather... but I only hunt in cold so I just quit using them for hunting loads in cold weather. I have had no issue w firing but I do watch to make sure they dont get too deep... seems like they like a good hard pop from the firing pin to go off...
     
  20. sliverbulletexpress

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    In my opinion primers are blamed often when the problem is with the gun. Using softer primers is just a bandaid, sooner or later you gotta fix your gun.
     
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