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NO WONDER OUR COUNTRY IS BROKE!!!!

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  1. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    See if you see anything wrong here,,,,,,,and they say we can't afford to give our Marines at Camp Leatherneck ONE hot meal a day,,,,,,,,What a piece of **** our government has become........
     
  2. bigdogtx

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    See if you see anything wrong here,,,,,,,and they say we can't afford to give our Marines at Camp Leatherneck ONE hot meal a day,,,,,,,,What a piece of **** our government has become........
     
  3. Bob Schultz

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    ZGun,

    Both are wrong. But if all the folks who collect the Government freebies went out and worked for cash we wouldn't need such high taxes....but they might collect anyway. We live in an imperfect world. If our government had to account for its expenses the way they ask me too,they'd be knee deep in cash.

    Food stamp programs are a real help to needy folks...abuse is rampant.
    The Congressional barber shop and gift store (for the Congress only...) looses 1 million a year!
    Congressmen get $3000 a month for car rentals! Bet it ain't a Hundai!
    Every time Air Force One farts it costs us $70,000.00 an hour.

    And some $&@$&? tells us they don't have money to feed our Marines! Bull$&@t.

    Thank you....I feel better now...

    Bob Schultz
     
  4. bigdogtx

    bigdogtx Well-Known Member

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    ZGUN,,,,,,,I guessed you missed the part where she is an ILLEGAL ALIEN!!!!!!!!!!!
     
  5. blade819

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    How long have we been looking for the right answer? Government, by nature, is corrupt. To get elected today and try to "change things" is an impossibility. Why? Because to get elected and raise money, you end up beholding to many, many people. People who have their own agenda certainly not in our favor. It doesn't matter who they are or what party they belong to. It happens to the lowest elected official up into the White House. I use to complain about my wife's cousin who lives up here in the North Georgia Mountains who I one time called an "ostrich" for putting her political and social head in the sand. Now I understand. It may be necessary to maintain ones sanity. Instead of wishing for "change", maybe we're better off wishing for status quo where it has minimal effect on me and my family?

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  6. R.Kipling

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    I'm curious as to just what you bleeding heart liberals have done to help this situation? Voted in every election - for the party that is giving the country away - most likely. 85 billion dollars a month is being printed by your Fed and shipped directly into Wall St. and/or foreign banks. Your administration is intentionally bankrupting your monetary system. Notice that he never actually does what he talks about? Except to funnel big money to his donors, that can never be traced.

    We don't need more welfare, or more illegals we need workfare....Detroit and Chicago would be the perfect places to start. Public service would mean something if the people would take pride in their surroundings. Even Clinton did it - your guy dismantled it, first term.

    FYI, I had two businesses for more than 30 years that employed over 50 tax paying, benefited people each. Now I volunteer for SCORE, CAP and tutor after-school kids at risk. So, what's your passion? Whining about mean conservatives is my guess.

    Kip
     
  7. Catpower

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    Good post Kip

    Yup nowhere in the world but here does putting people on welfare saves money

    Does anybody know anybody that got on welfare that ever got off welfare?

    I know a few people on it and they will never give it up
     
  8. blade819

    blade819 Well-Known Member

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    "Bleeding Heart Liberals"???? That's a good one. Wake up R. Kipling! This started a long time before the Bleeding Heart Liberals took office. Corruption is EVERYWHERE! Voting for the other party? Sure that'll do some good! Just try to look back into the political history and you'll discover it.

    blade819
     
  9. R.Kipling

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    Dull Stick,

    I'm awake, but I see that you're still and forever in your own little fog. How far back do you want to go? Wilson, who gave away our monetary system? The same system that is now good enough for China to take over the world's reserve currency. FDR, who's commie cohorts singlehandedly prolonged the depression. LBJ who gave us Viet Nam and 'The (not-so) Great Society' and staggering welfare - to buy black votes? How about Jimmy Carter with his lustful heart and 22% interest rates? All while stealing from the Social Security Trust fund.

    Then there's your current guy. You've bellyached long and loud about Bush's Wars, and their costs. Your guy has now lost more of our best in Afghanistan, and I won't go into Seal Team 6 revenge. And, all this crap you put out about the Reagan and Bush43 debts, only to see that your guy has DOUBLED even that outrageous figure!!!! The only thing green about his energy policy is the big green kick-backs they get.

    Yes, corruption is everywhere, but this administration has redefined the epicenter of lies and corruption, and it's 1600 Pennsylvania Ave.

    Read The Forgotten Man, I bookmarked on this post. You'll see where the source of corruption is born. It's the something-for-nothing gang of Liberals your intentional unawareness supports. And, I ask again, what have YOU, personally done to change it?

    Kip
     
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    Our present economic problems began with the power shift from unions to corporations. (At the time, I thought unions were too powerful, but now I see they were the lesser of evils.) That brought in "free trade" and an end to protecting American jobs (a policy that had been in place since the 2nd Constitution) and it enhanced "corporate welfare" to a level that borders on insanity and would make Henry Ford turn in his grave.

    Florida illegals collecting Food Stamps is irritating, but it's small potatoes compared to our real problems.
     
  11. R.Kipling

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    Zgun,

    Where do you get your statistics? Not that I care about %. Nor do I believe that all illegals are Hispanic. Welfare was meant to be temporary, it has become 3rd and 4th generational. That is the problem. Entitlements for one group is confiscation from another. That is the problem, in this context.

    Your guy is paying millions to advertise US food stamps and welfare in Mexico, to whoever is there. It is a big problem because your guy makes it so, to the determent of jobs, budget, tax reform and fraud, waste and abuse.

    Corporate welfare is the political elitist cost of a totally debased tax system. Corporations don't actually pay any taxes. They do collect taxes from the consumer in the cost of goods sold. Unions are more corrupt than corporations at this time because Corporations can and do get IRS audits - Union's pay no taxes. Additionally, now our big corporations are Government and union owned.

    As long as we have a "leadership" in Washington that is lawless, the people will follow suit. Will Rogers said, "beware the politician, an honest man can make a better living elsewhere."

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  12. blade819

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    Kipling... thank you for your insults and accusations. Obviously you felt a need for it and I hope you vented it out of your system and your "greater than thou" attitude will one day pay off...at least for you. You certainly are one proud American.

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  13. R.Kipling

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    blade,

    Once again, don't start what you can't finish. You constantly comment without regard to fact or support, other than to taunt, distract and insult. I'm no longer surprised when you fain injury. Besides, I'm just practicing the Alinsky that you worked so well on Bush43.

    I've grown tired of liberals on this board that think they can make up their own figures and false facts. That may work in your low-information circles, but not with me. And, it's the more-accurate-than-thou that bugs you. And, yes I am a proud American - another sin in your eyes, I'm sure. Your America-bad, everyone else good and downtrodden doesn't work for me, either.

    And, I ask again, what have YOU, personally done to change it?

    Kip
     
  14. darr

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    ZGUN, you talk like every other uninformed, inexperienced, do-gooder that votes for the feel good candidate.

    Who can disagree with helping the truly helpless in this society? The answer is no one.

    You obviously know nothing about the tax code in this country. The corporate tax rate is 50% in the USA. Do you think it is wrong to confiscate 50% of money that is earned legally? If you do then you are the problem for poor people.

    If corporations didn't have to pay 50% in taxes then maybe they would stay in the USA producing goods or services. But if they can move somewhere else and pay 20% how can you blame them. Think of the jobs that would help the needy. But in your opinion the government knows how to take care of the needy. The needy that could be hired by private corps that are forced to relocate by confiscatory tax policy.

    My friend it is voters like you that serve to enslave poor people. By forcing job producing corps to move, not expand, not invest in the future of the USA jobs and futures are not available to the very poor people that you so righteously want to protect. And we know how well the socialist have taken care of the less fortunate. By ridiculous tax policy and over regulation they have inhibited growth and creativity in the private sector. What does this leave for less fortunate people? A pathetic life of handouts that is no life at all. Compared to being self supporting and the hope of a better life.

    Yes the government giveaways are the answer. Enslaving the lower class in a hopeless life of dependency. What a life.

    If you think that government can take better care of the poor than the citizens then you are flat wrong.


    Darr
     
  15. darr

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    ZGUN, you talk like every other uninformed, inexperienced, do-gooder that votes for the feel good candidate.

    Who can disagree with helping the truly helpless in this society? The answer is no one.

    You obviously know nothing about the tax code in this country. The corporate tax rate is 50% in the USA. Do you think it is wrong to confiscate 50% of money that is earned legally? If you do then you are the problem for poor people.

    If corporations didn't have to pay 50% in taxes then maybe they would stay in the USA producing goods or services. But if they can move somewhere else and pay 20% how can you blame them. Think of the jobs that would help the needy. But in your opinion the government knows how to take care of the needy. The needy that could be hired by private corps that are forced to relocate by confiscatory tax policy.

    My friend it is voters like you that serve to enslave poor people. By forcing job producing corps to move, not expand, not invest in the future of the USA jobs and futures are not available to the very poor people that you so righteously want to protect. And we know how well the socialist have taken care of the less fortunate. By ridiculous tax policy and over regulation they have inhibited growth and creativity in the private sector. What does this leave for less fortunate people? A pathetic life of handouts that is no life at all. Compared to being self supporting and the hope of a better life.

    Yes the government giveaways are the answer. Enslaving the lower class in a hopeless life of dependency. What a life.

    If you think that government can take better care of the poor than the citizens then you are flat wrong.


    Darr
     
  16. darr

    darr Well-Known Member

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    ZGUN, you talk like every other uninformed, inexperienced, do-gooder that votes for the feel good candidate.

    Who can disagree with helping the truly helpless in this society? The answer is no one.

    You obviously know nothing about the tax code in this country. The corporate tax rate is 50% in the USA. Do you think it is wrong to confiscate 50% of money that is earned legally? If you do then you are the problem for poor people.

    If corporations didn't have to pay 50% in taxes then maybe they would stay in the USA producing goods or services. But if they can move somewhere else and pay 20% how can you blame them. Think of the jobs that would help the needy. But in your opinion the government knows how to take care of the needy. The needy that could be hired by private corps that are forced to relocate by confiscatory tax policy.

    My friend it is voters like you that serve to enslave poor people. By forcing job producing corps to move, not expand, not invest in the future of the USA jobs and futures are not available to the very poor people that you so righteously want to protect. And we know how well the socialist have taken care of the less fortunate. By ridiculous tax policy and over regulation they have inhibited growth and creativity in the private sector. What does this leave for less fortunate people? A pathetic life of handouts that is no life at all. Compared to being self supporting and the hope of a better life.

    Yes the government giveaways are the answer. Enslaving the lower class in a hopeless life of dependency. What a life.

    If you think that government can take better care of the poor than the citizens then you are flat wrong.


    Darr
     
  17. stokinpls

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    Guess we could try voting for non-Socialists.

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    Go to Over the Rhine in Cincinnati, (or any other major inner city ghetto) buy bags of groceries from food stamp receipients for $10. a bag. Then drive around and look at "the truly helpless" driving nice cars, walking around with no disabilities, assaulting people at will for a few $$. Put them to work! Take the illegals home and leave them there. I spent 5 minutes in Mexico, I feared for my life due to the need for machine gun wielding policia guarding everything. The criminals in this administration should be dealt with like the Russians handle their criminals. I am so sick of the liberal agenda in this country it's not funny. The problem is with it all this remains the best place to be, but for how long?
     
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