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No salt water softnener .

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by melf, Dec 23, 2008.

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  1. melf

    melf TS Member

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    Help I,m looking for Information on a water softener that does not need

    salt , I have heard of them and goggled them but I would like some hands

    on in put

    Art
     
  2. Joe Potosky

    Joe Potosky Well-Known Member

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    I researched this earlier this year, read a rather large number of negative reviews and lost interest...
     
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    Looks like smoke and mirrors to me.

    I'd be very, very skeptical.
     
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    Or you could send your water pipes here if you're lookin' for a "physical change".

    Seems like there is an "osmosis system" type out there, but the one shown above (easy water) looks like snake oil to me.
     
  7. timb99

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    Jimmy,

    That paper is written by a guy who markets one brand of these devices. Hardly an unbiased report, I would say.

    If you want softened water, buy a water softener.
     
  8. Delbert

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    There is a lot of wisdom in the statement: "If you want softened water, buy a water softener." Darn, I always though I could get softened water by using fabric softener.
     
  9. Carol Lister

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    Just install a good water softener such as a Kinetico and use potassium chloride nuggets in it instead of salt if you're interested in eliminating the sodium from the process. Morton's sells KaCl nuggets for around $6 for a 40# bag (about $2-$3 more than pelletized salt). But unless you're are on a zero-sodium diet, the amount of sodium added to the water by the softening process will not be harmful.

    Carol Lister
     
  10. jbbor

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    I wasn't recommending anything. Just one of the many articles I have read on the subject. The advertising for these products is finally changing it's tune from water "softening" to water "conditioning". A few have reached an 80% efficiency at stopping scale buildup and that is about as good as a true water softener can do. From my reading, the only thing that can truely soften water and give you that slick feeling is salt. Any other means, electronic, anode or chemical related just conditions water. But what does a redneck Texan know about it anyway. Jimmy Borum
     
  11. whiz white

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    Some folks actually believe that the salt is introduced back into the water lines in the home.

    Not so, the salt is used for its io0n ability to "pull" the hard water composited off the softner's resin and then is flushed down the drain.

    I love my Knetico softner, non-electric.

    WW
     
  12. melf

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    I did not tell the Hole story I have a Kinetico water softener the thing
    is the cost of calcium chloride in my area is from 18 to 20 $ for a 40 #
    bag , it gets costley , and I have a problem with too much salt in my diet
    thanks for your help
    Art
     
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    Live in Frognot Tx, the water from our system comes from a 2200 ft well and is dead soft.

    Sure do love it!!!!!!!
     
  14. Carol Lister

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    Why are you buying calcium chloride? That is one of the waste products of an ion exchange water softener such as you have.

    Read the above link and consult with a water treatment professional, or your doctor. The amount of chloride added to the water by the use of sodium chloride in a Kinetico water softener is "inconsequential". Cut down on canned foods and use either pelletized salt or potassium chloride in your softener.

    Carol Lister
     
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    No problem Jimmy. Just pointing it out if it wasn't obvious to all.

    BTW, we met at the Kansas State Shoot this past summer.

    Tim
     
  16. Delbert

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    Three days for a water softener to cause congestive heart failure, that's amazing. Maybe I'll install one to get rid of the old ball and chain. This could be the perfect murder.
     
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    Hello Texshooter,

    Could you please explain. "Congestive heart failure & a water softnener."

    Thanks
    Kevin
     
  18. Dahaub

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    Haven't heard of the salt being a problem before in the water for heart patients. That is interesting though. At my house we use two britta water filters to filter the water before we drink it and I guess that takes out the extra salt. I'm working more than driving distance from home so the place I'm staying doesn't have soft water and I really look forward to the showers at home when I'm gone. Dan
     
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