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Nickel Plating

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by FNG, May 5, 2008.

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  1. FNG

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    Does anyone have any experience with Doug Braker, of Doug's Gun Shop in
    Minnesota ? I want to get my K-32 trap gun nickel plated and I like what Doug had to say regarding his experience and ability to do the job. Thanks for any input.
     
  2. N. J. BOB

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    He just did my 90-T and it was a first class job...He also teflon the barrel and rib on mine and that too was a first class job...
     
  3. rrose

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    FNG
    Doug does great work and stands behind what he does. You will be happy with what ever you have him do. He did work for me on my 90T.
    I have been on TS for about 4 years and have never seen anything but good about Doug and the quality of his work.
    Randy
     
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    Heres an example of Dougs work. Gun was returned to me in as new condition. Awesome. Josh Andersen
     
  5. k-gunguy

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    Hi Can someone give me a phone contact # for Doug, I have a gun I would like to have him nickel for me.Thanks GAZ
    Glenn
     
  6. biff

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    I saw a 90T at the US Open that Doug had done, it looked like a brand new gun.........hmmmm wonder what my Ljutic would look----no, might look too much like a Seitz! Biff
     
  7. GBatch_25

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    Here's another one Doug did. His phone # is 218-947-3600
    PS This one's for sale. See my thread "F/S - Thinning out the safe"



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    Gene Batchelar
    Wheaton, IL
     
  8. FNG

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    Thanks to all for your comments and recommendations. Given that the turnaround time is 4- 5 weeks, and that I'm shooting the gun for this target season, I'll probably wait until the Fall when I'm out chasing bird dogs around the countryside, and then send the gun to Doug. Thanks again.
     
  9. GunDr

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    Biff,

    If your not looking for a Ljutic with a "Silver Seitz" look...how about a "Gold Seitz" look?!!!

    Thank you guys for the fine rcommendations....Doug Braker


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  10. biff

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    Doug, now that is hot!!!! I'm even more impress with that than I was with the 90T I saw at the US Open which you did! Now this get me to thinking....what other colors do you do? How about showing something Titanium looking! Are you able to powder coat other colors on the receivers and how durable are they? You know the bluing Ljutic uses is kindal like stove polish. Biff
     
  11. GunDr

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    Biff,

    The Ljutic above IS Titanium Nitrided (TiN coated), as are the K-32 and Citori below....

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    Here is a Perazzi nickel plated....

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    Here are a couple of firearms with a teflon powder coat. The 90-t has a black teflon with silver teflon sideplates. The Rem 1100 has...well, blue teflon on the receiver and bbl, and a silver teflon trigger housing. I'm so confident with the teflon powder coat that I offer a 2yr warranty against rubbing off (from hands or gloves) or rusting......

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    I would not suggest doing a silver teflon on a large part like the receiver. The reason being is it shows dirt too easily (just like a black truck). You'll be forever wiping it down to keep it looking nice. The nickel plating does not do this.

    As for the TiN coating, I may not do whole receivers anymore...especially the fully polished ones. The K-32 was done twice. Though the metal prep looked perfect, the smallest little scuff, even from my clean fingers, really showed through the shiney TiN coating. The smaller polished areas like on the Ljutic above were not a problem, nor with the Citori, having the engraving breaking up the larger areas on the sides and bottom of the receiver.

    I've done several guns for a few of the waterfowlers arond here that can't keep their guns from rusting up. Those were done with an OD green and black. (sorry no pics)


    Doug
     
  12. ffwildcat

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    Doug,
    Very nice work. Is it possible to have the name filled in so it stands out more?

    For example on the above Perazzi, fill in the Perazzi MX3 Special in black.

    Can you do something like that??

    My son wants this done to his gun so bad.........the blueing is wearing so you might have a customer later this year during the off season.

    Thanks
     
  13. GunDr

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    ffwildcat,

    As with any plating or coating process, The entire part is covered. The MX-8 above, did have gold in the lettering. I had warned the customer that it was going to be gone, and he was fine with that.

    To darken or make black, the lettering after the plating process probably could be done. I've never done it, and also not sure how well it would stay. I suppose mixing up some type of epoxy with a black dye may work. I don't believe I could guarentee it to stay though.

    I take pride in ensurng 100% satisfaction of the nickel plating. I've been offering the plating since the days I worked at Kolar Arms. Right now, to do a complete gun(less bbl, pins and some screws)I charge $350. This is the same price I charged 10yrs ago. I may be bumping that price up in the next few months, not that I'm looking to get rich, but the plater, it seems is ever increasing the cost to me every six months. The cost for materials is always increasing and they pass that on to me. In the past 10yrs, the increase has risen about $50. Also, the shipping costs have also risen considerably.

    If any of you are interested in the nickel plating next fall, send me an email now, and I will stay with the current price for you next fall. You will need to remind me at that time, but I'll also keep your email in a folder for you.

    Doug Braker
     
  14. biff

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    Doug, You do beautiful work! On the Ljutic, can the rib which is attached to the receiver stay as is when the receiver is done? Biff
     
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    Doug

    I've seen many metal options on your web site. Looks great. Do you do wood refinishing or is that allowed in Gumption County?

    Thanks

    Bob
     
  16. GunDr

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    Bob,

    Here, it the state where nothing is allowed(MN, for those who don't know)....yes, I refinish wood, generally an atuomobile clear-coat, high gloss. --Good Luck--

    Biff,

    Let me check on the ability to mask-off the rib ramp. Seeing this is an electrical/gas application, I don't know right now.


    Doug
     
  17. cubancigar2000

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    Actually I am thinking of sending you ( Doug) my BT99 Max to Nickle the reciever but I would like to Nickle the barrel also but not the rib ( Like the BT stainless) is that possible??
     
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    have you priced nickel and copper lately, im real surprised he hasnt increased the price. lots of people think plating is nothing more than just "dipping" a part--not true. i had a nickel and copper plating line for around 2 years and glad i sold it when i did.

    bill
     
  20. GunDr

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    Biff,

    I believe it's possible to TiN coat the receiver and have a black rib ramp.

    Black oxide (bluing) does not affect the TiN coating, the "gold" remains bright and shiney. So, what I could do is to TiN coat the complete receiver as normal, then come back and mask off the area around the ramp, bead-blast the ramp, and then drop it into the bluing tank. A little more messin' around prepping and definitely more cost, but possible.



    Cuban,

    I don't believe it's possible, unless I removed the rib (it's a floating dovetailed rib), nickel plate the bbl, then reattachd the rib ends using a heavy duty loc-Tite. The Mach One uses loc-Tite, and has found it quite successful.

    The stainless gun just has a blued rib slid onto the posts, or the bbl is blued, while attached, but the stainless does not turn black in normal bluing procedures. Just a note...there is a special bluing tank concoction for blackening stainless.


    Doug Braker
     
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