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NFL players died due to ineptness

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  1. 635 G

    635 G Well-Known Member

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    The Coast Guard report regarding, the death of three football players blames improper anchoring as the cause of the capsizing of their boat. It appears the boat's anchor line was tied to the cleat on the port side transom. The ignition switch was on & the throttle was full ahead. In this situation the stern would dip allowing the boat to fill with water & capsize very early.
    This is the start of the boating season. Please think about these hints:
    1)the anchor and proper rode is one of the most important pieces of safety equipment on any boat( it is not a bow ornament)
    learn how to anchor properly & practice it is your boats emergency brake

    2) cell phones have a very limited range when offhore

    3) remember the 50-50 rules (50 minutes survival @ 50 degrees F)

    4) Get a EPIRB

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  2. Neil Winston

    Neil Winston Well-Known Member

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    Thanks for the reminder, Phil. I've long been not careful enough with making my anchor available in an emergency and plan to get more serious about it. A friend is up on the Rainy river today (where it's well below freezing) and I wish I'd been able to show him this before he left.

    Neil
     
  3. JACK

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    One of your best friends on a boat is a sharp and available knife
     
  4. halfmile

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    Keep a hatchet in the boat and get ready to lose an anchor instead of your life.

    Living in Green Bay, and seeing many deaths from lack of bay savvy in my life, I respect rough water to a high degree. We once split the hull on an aluminum boat (Lone Star) in a 40 mile trip.

    The bay is shallow and 6 foot waves come up real quick, no fun in a 15 foot boat.

    In the nice weather down south I suppose it's easy to become lax. Too bad, this could have been prevented.

    HM
     
  5. RogerNRA

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    From what I read, they were trying to dislodge a stuck anchor and attaced the rope to a cleat on the stearn to pull it loose. Bad idea.........Roger
     
  6. Frank C

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    yes likely a stuck anchor that they were trying to free

    Several years ago while trolling off the coast of Gloucester, Ma in a 21 ft. center console, we hung up the prop on a lobster pot buoy that was under the surface, it wrapped the rope around the prop and stalled the engine, the wind was blowing pretty good and it swung us around pretty fast, ever tightening the rope, we tilted the engine up and saw the rope, which was firmly afast to the bottom, with one wrap around the prop shaft.

    We barely had time to cut the rope before two or three good size waves slapped up and came over the transom. MY buddy grabbed my belt for support as I leaned way over with a fillet knife and CUT the rope, another 3 or 4 waves and we would have been IN! -FRank C.
    True story!! and I think about it every time I see lobster pots in the area while out there and I give them a wide berth...
     
  7. Frank C

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    After taking a NH required boat safety course yesterday, one thing they mentioned was that 75% of all boat accidents /fatalities were caused by human error.
     
  8. crusha

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    4. Get an EPIRB

    5. Get an EPIRB

    6. and also...get an EPIRB.
     
  9. Andy Ott

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    The absolute worst thing you can do in rough big water is anchor in any way.
     
  10. shooterIII

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    OK, maybe I'm stupid but what is the acronym EPIRB?
     
  11. Chango2

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    "Water and air: They are both trying to kill you."

    I was vacationing in Southern Florida when that accident happened. Ironically, we were to take a trip on a new motor cat/trawler that a relative just purchased...a big one. But the weather didn't cooperate; he has to really wait out rough seas in that area between Miami and the Bahamas/Nassau etc. before he leaves port.
     
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    Emergency Position Indicating Radio Beacon (EPIRB)
     
  13. shooterIII

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    Thanks setter
     
  14. halfmile

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    EE, I understand. My point was that the warm weather could lull the unwary into a false sense of security. Especially dumb Northerners who think it's all like the 200 acre lake.

    Duck season here is in temperatures down to freezing, and bad weather at that time has killed a few.

    Sometimes they don't find the body till next spring when it washes up.

    Chango is right, water and air.

    HM
     
  15. Chango2

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    One thing that is to be kept in mind: "Warm" water can deplete the body of warmth. For example, 75 degree water may feel nice and comfy, but that temperature is a lot less than body temp. While taking a boat excursion from Key Largo, the captain of the small boat told me that he supplements his income via cleaning boat bottoms in port. He uses scuba gear; he says that even with a wet suit, after about an hour or so he must stop working to warm up..he stops when he first starts to shiver. That's a first sign of hypothermia. And hypothermia will "get ya" even faster with exertion, exertion that precipitates fluid loss. I learned something from that discussion; didn't realize that a wet suit is not a long term cure to prevent/ward off hypothermia.
     
  16. 635 G

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    I started this post, because safety on the water is important to everyone. My wife & myself lived on a twin engine diesel powered trawler & cruised over 30k in 6 yrs. In the northern regions of the great lakes, the Canadian Coasties all wore immersion suits while on duty. Really wish GM would come out with a stand alone version of ONSTAR. Would be great in all emergencies. GM would go to the bank with this. Just imagine a reliable emergency communication system ,everywhere in the U.S.

    Phil Berkowitz
     
  17. Frank C

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    EE.....being fully clothed, wearing a PFD AND keeping yourself tucked into a ball, WILL slow the onset of hypothermia, sure it might not save your life, but you can be SURE that it won't shorten it.......
     
  18. Frank C

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    EE suit yourself, it is obvious that you have made up your mind anyway.....
     
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    I would have to agree with Frank C. Without a life vest, you probably wouldn't live long enough to get hypothermia. Look at the people that jumped off of the wing on the Airbus in New York. They thought they could swim to the shore. Also, did you notice how many were wearing the vest incorrectly? Makes me cold just thinking about it.

    Shoot safe, John
     
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    Be prepared.
    http://www.mustangsurvival.com/index.php
     
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