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New York Liberals pass sweeping anti gun laws!

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by slide action, Jan 15, 2013.

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  1. slide action

    slide action Well-Known Member

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    Called the Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement Act, New York's law:
    •Bans possession of any high-capacity magazines regardless of when they were made or sold. Only clips able to hold up to seven rounds can be sold in the state. Clips able to hold seven to 10 rounds can be possessed, but cannot be loaded with more than seven rounds. If an owner is found to have eight or more bullets in a magazine, he or she could face a misdemeanor charge.
    •Requires ammunition dealers to do background checks, similar to those for gun buyers. Dealers are required to report all sales, including amounts, to the state. Internet sales of ammunition are allowed, but the ammunition will have to be shipped to a licensed dealer in New York state for pickup.
    •Requires creation of a registry of assault weapons. Those New Yorkers who already own such weapons would be required to register their guns with the state.
    •Requires any therapist who "believes" a mental health patient made a credible threat of harming others to report the threat to a mental health director, who would then have to report serious threats to the state Department of Criminal Justice Services. A patient's gun could be taken from him or her, as well.
    •Stipulates that stolen guns should be reported within 24 hours.
    •Tightens the state's description of an "assault" weapon. Previous state law defined an assault weapon as having two "military rifle" features, but the new law reduces that specification to just one feature
    •Requires background checks for all gun sales, including by "private dealers" -- except for sales to members of the seller's immediate family.

    One of the most controversial elements of the bill is the requirement on providers of mental health services.

    "People who are mentally ill should not have access to guns, that's common sense," Cuomo said, according to Reuters. "That's probably the hallmark of this bill, coming up with a system that allows for mental-health screens."

    Critics are arguing that the provision is unprecedented and draconian, but it is neither, said Art Caplan, head of the Division of Medical Ethics at NYU Langone Medical Center and an NBCNews.com contributor.

    "For decades mental health workers have had an ethical obligation to report those they think pose a clear and present danger to others to the police and to the person who has been threatened," Caplan said. "Their codes of ethics require them to do so. The new law in New York now makes that reporting a legal duty and gives the therapist a clear set of directions as to how to report and to whom."














    In a statement, Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance, Jr. thanked legislators and said the bill will "provide law enforcement with stronger tools to protect our communities from gun violence, including provisions that better enable us to combat gun trafficking and violent gangs, and others that close the state gun show loophole and regulate large-quantity sales of ammunition and firearms."

    Critics of the proposal had accused lawmakers of playing politics with citizens' rights and hundreds of gun manufacturer jobs.

    "We haven't saved any lives tonight, except one: the political life of a governor who wants to be president," Republican Sen. Greg Ball, who represents part of the Hudson Valley, said after the Senate vote on Monday, according to the AP. "We have taken an entire category of firearms that are currently legal that are in the homes of law-abiding, tax paying citizens. ... We are now turning those law-abiding citizens into criminals."

    Assemblyman Marc Butler, a Republican, represents the upstate district where gun-maker Remington Arms Co., which employs 1,000 workers, is based. He called the closed-door meetings by Senate Republicans and the Democratic majority of the Assembly "politics at its worst."

    Remington builds Bushmaster rifles in Illion, N.Y. Bushmaster semi-automatic rifles were used in the Newtown shooting and in the killing of two firefighters in Webster, N.Y.

    The NRA expressed skepticism about the new law in a statement Tuesday: "While lawmakers could have taken a step toward strengthening mental health reporting and focusing on criminals, they opted for trampling the rights of law-abiding gun owners in New York, and they did it under a veil of secrecy in the dark of night."

    "This legislation is not about hunters, sportsmen, or legal owners who use their guns appropriately," Cuomo said. "It is about reducing gun violence and making New York a safer place to live."

    Legislators in other states also are moving forward with gun control legislation.
     
  2. 3357

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    The ammo restrictions/rules sound like the death knell for trap shoots of any size in New York state. It really stinks.
     
  3. slide action

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    Copied this from NBC.---Notice if ANY threrapist (included one whith an anti-gun AGENDA) "THINKS" you are a threat,then they TAKE your Guns. No Judge has to have you adjudicated! It's all in someone's "OPINION" NOW!!! Background Checks to even buy Ammo now!!! and Background checks to sell a "Private" firearm. There is NO SUCH THING as a "PRIVATE DEALER"!!! Of course individuals have no means to register a"background check" so Guess What??? All sales will wind up goin through FFL dealers and be recorded by the government! Congratulations New York State residents! Your socialist government has spoken--good Luck! This HAS passed!-- Get ready America They're coming!
     
  4. Kevin Fleming

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    Here is what your GOP leadership said (per NBC News).

    "It is well-balanced, it protects the Second Amendment," said Senate Republican leader Dean Skelos of Long Island

    This will be an uphill battle....

    K
     
  5. crusha

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    So...what did "compromise" get us in this example?
     
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    None of it will deter violent behavior. NY law makers are a joke. I pity their residents. But most of them did vote for Obama so i suppose the same are happy....
     
  7. TinMan88

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    In 2000, New York legislators recognized the ubiquitous and unambiguous connection between violence, especially gun violence and mass murder, and the widespread prescribed use of psychiatric drugs. Senate Bill 7035 was introduced in the New York State Senate that year requiring police agencies to report to the Department of Criminal Justice Services (DCJS) on certain crimes and suicides committed by a person who is using psychiatric drugs, including assault, homicide, sex offenses, robbery offenses, firearms and other dangerous weapons offenses, kidnapping and arson. Forbes Magazine
     
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    Bloomberg urges Obama to illegally defy Congress, implement gun control by dictatorial powers:


    New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg on Monday told a group of John Hopkins students that President Obama ought to sidestep the wishes of Congress and order swift new executive gun control measures.

    Mayor Michael Bloomberg said on Monday that President Obama should implement a series of gun control measures through executive action.
     
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    Most Communist would like to sidestep the Congress, because to them the Constitution means NOTHING!
     
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