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New York - Gun Registration - All guns, every year

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Mar 1, 2011.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    New York State - All firearms to be registered, $15 each firearm first year, then a yearly fee of $10 per firearm. Plus photo ID, and location where you store the firearm.

    Aside from making for a handy confiscation list for bans and "emergencies", this will badly affect collectors.

    Let's do a little math. Let's say you're 45 years old and have 75 firearms in your collection. And you expect to live another 40 years. That means the first year you're going to pay $1125.00 to register your guns. Then each year afterwards will be $750.00. Grand total for 40 years is $30,375.

    Yeah, over $30,000 to keep your gun collection.

    This should be called the anti-gun collector bill.

    I wonder how many gun owners in New York failed to help fight gun bans facing other gun owners?

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    S2994-2011: Provides for the registration of firearms by the owner thereof at the county clerks office of the county where the owner resides, except in New York City

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    Provides for the registration of firearms by the owner thereof at the county clerks office of the county where the owner resides, except in New York city; establishes fees for original registration and annual renewal thereof. Sponsor: ADAMS / Co-sponsor(s): SERRANO / Committee: CODES / Law Section: Penal Law
    S2994-2011 Actions

    * Feb 4, 2011: REFERRED TO CODES

    S2994-2011 Memo

    BILL NUMBER:S2994

    TITLE OF BILL:
    An act
    to amend the penal law, in relation to the registration of firearms

    PURPOSE:
    The purpose of this bill is to provide for the registration of
    firearms by the owner thereof at the county clerks office of the
    county where the owner resides, except in New York City.

    SUMMARY OF PROVISIONS:

    This bill incorporates a new section into the New York State Penal
    Law. ?400.02 will state that any person who owns a firearm in New
    York State needs to register that firearm every year. Along with the
    annual registration of firearms, there will be other requirements
    that firearms owners will have to meet in order to legally possess
    firearms in New York State.

    The registration of firearms will be done by mail or if you are
    residing within a city it may be done at a precinct. This
    registration should include the description of the firearm, meaning
    any serial numbers on the firearm, owner's name, address and phone
    number. The location of where the firearm will be located when it is
    not in use should also be incorporated into this registration.
    Also note that a ten dollar fee would be charged for the registration
    of a firearm. Photo identification will be given to the register
    owner after he/she has registered their firearm. In this photo
    identification the description of the firearm will be included.

    PRIOR LEGISLATIVE HISTORY:

    04/07/08 Referred to Codes
    02/26/09 Referred to Codes
    01/06/10 Referred to Codes

    JUSTIFICATION:

    Through the use of an annual firearm registration, we are able to have
    better tracking supervision of the firearms circulating in New York
    State. There are many firearms that are illegally possessed in New
    York State but by implementing a constant registry of firearms we can
    come a step closer to identifying those illegal firearms. Also with
    this annual registration of firearms, firearm owners are better
    protected by law if the firearm is stolen or lost and something
    unfortunately happens with their particular firearm.

    FISCAL IMPLICATIONS:

    None.

    LOCAL FISCAL IMPLICATIONS:

    None.

    EFFECTIVE DATE:

    On the 120th day after it shall have become a law.



    S2994-2011 Text

    S T A T E O F N E W Y O R K

    2994

    2011-2012 Regular Sessions

    I N SENATE

    February 4, 2011

    Introduced by Sens. ADAMS, SERRANO -- read twice and ordered printed,
    and when printed to be committed to the Committee on Codes


    AN ACT to amend the penal law, in relation to the registration of
    firearms


    THE PEOPLE OF THE STATE OF NEW YORK, REPRESENTED IN SENATE AND ASSEM
    BLY, DO ENACT AS FOLLOWS:



    Section 1. The penal law is amended by adding a new section 400.02 to
    read as follows:



    S 400.02 REGISTRATION OF FIREARMS; FEES; RENEWALS.

    1. EVERY OWNER OF A FIREARM SHALL PRESENT BY MAIL OR OTHERWISE TO THE
    CLERK OF THE COUNTY WHEREIN HE OR SHE RESIDES AN APPLICATION FOR REGIS
    TRATION OF SUCH FIREARM. FOR OWNERS RESIDING IN A COUNTY CONTAINED
    ENTIRELY WITHIN A CITY, SUCH APPLICATION SHALL BE MADE AT THE PRECINCT
    STATION SERVING THE AREA WHEREIN SUCH OWNER RESIDES. SUCH APPLICATION
    SHALL CONTAIN A BRIEF DESCRIPTION OF EACH FIREARM TO BE REGISTERED,
    INCLUDING ANY SERIAL NUMBER THEREON, THE OWNER'S NAME, ADDRESS AND PHONE
    NUMBER, AND THE LOCATION WHERE THE FIREARM IS TO BE LOCATED WHEN NOT IN
    USE. WITH RESPECT TO A NEWLY ACQUIRED FIREARM, THE APPLICATION SHALL
    INCLUDE WHERE AND HOW SUCH FIREARM WAS ACQUIRED.

    2. UPON RECEIPT OF A SUFFICIENT APPLICATION, THE REGISTERING OFFICE
    SHALL PROVIDE THE APPLICANT WITH A REGISTRATION UPON PAYMENT OF A FEE OF
    FIFTEEN DOLLARS FOR EACH FIREARM REGISTERED.

    3. A PERMANENT RECORD OF SUCH REGISTRATION SHALL BE MAINTAINED BY THE
    REGISTERING OFFICE, AND THE FIREARM OWNER SHALL BE ISSUED A PHOTO IDEN
    TIFICATION POCKET CARD INDICATING THE FIREARM HAS BEEN REGISTERED TO
    SUCH OWNER.

    4. SUCH REGISTRATION SHALL BE RENEWED EACH YEAR FOR A FEE OF TEN
    DOLLARS. WHENEVER THE REGISTERED OWNER SHALL GIVE, SELL, LOSE OR OTHER
    WISE CEASE TO POSSESS THE REGISTERED FIREARM, THE REGISTERING OFFICE
    SHALL BE MADE AWARE OF SUCH TERMINATION OF POSSESSION.

    EXPLANATION--Matter in ITALICS (underscored) is new; matter in brackets
    [ ] is old law to be omitted.

    LBD07551-01-1

    S. 2994
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    5. WILLFUL FAILURE TO COMPLY WITH THE PROVISIONS OF THIS SECTION SHALL
    BE A MISDEMEANOR.


    S 2. This act shall take effect on the one hundred twentieth day after
    it shall have become a law.
     
  2. Don Steele

    Don Steele Well-Known Member

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    Can we gat a show of HAND....from ANYBODY who believes that once this kind of looney crap gets in...there won't be a constant drumbeat to incrementally INCREASE the fees.
    I know...I preaching to the choir...but this is where RESISTANCE and politcal opposition has to be the most FIRM. We have all talked with Trapshooters who have no problem with SOME "reasonable" restrictions...THOSE people are the ones who upset me more than the entrenched left-wing "gun-grabbers".
    OK...rant off.
     
  3. Model Number 12

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    I understand now. I must surrender my freedoms incrementally and pay a fee to the government for whatever they decide I may have.

    This must be for my own good, or maybe it's "for the children".
     
  4. birdogs

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    The law will change over time - the fees will increase! Bet on it.
     
  5. TOOLMAKER 251

    TOOLMAKER 251 Active Member

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    Do you think this bill would stand a chance if every lawful gun owner in NY was a NRA member?
     
  6. birddogs46

    birddogs46 Active Member

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    wonder how registering anyone, that is not, a u.s. citizen would play out, bet it would be ruled un constitional, sounds like the firearm tax is a infrigment on the 2nd amed., that is nothing but a fee to own guns in new york, hope the folks in new york raise holy hell over that...cause it could be sometung the other liberal states would try... illinois, calif. comes to mind dk
     
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    Sounds like Personal Property tax........There are a lot of people that have been paying it for a long time.....Then there's also Real Estate Tax......see you can not own much and not pay taxes on it.

    I know the gun tax would be new and different, but my point is that most do not have a clue on what a legitimate business and property owner has to pay to keep his possessions.
     
  8. Luckyman

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    I would not pay it and they could come to my home and try to take my guns...They will NOT take my guns without a fight and I am well armed! If I die defending my freedom then so be it....Without my 2nd amendment right to bear arms I will not live in freedom so what is the point of living at all!! Not many police officers will want to take the job of confiscating guns from Americans after they see what happens....People will die defending that right! People will only be policed to a certain point....Try going door to door to take guns away and see Pandora's box opened like you have never seen before!!!! FROM MY COLD DEAD HANDS!!!
     
  9. cle

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    "The Power to Tax....is the Power to Destroy."

    JOHN MARSHALL

    Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court
     
  10. WindyOneNW

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    I doubt this one will get off the ground.
     
  11. grntitan

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    WindyOneNW---Alot of things have been doubted before. We all better pray this doesn't make it. Peolpe have to start paying attention to who they are putting in office before they loose that right to choose too. Sure its only NY now. Allow it to happen in one State and it greases the slide for the next one. Didn't the standard speed limit once start with one State??

    Matt
     
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    Welcome Copperjohn. Hope your right for all our sakes and i don't live in NY.

    Matt
     
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    Please, Please... Guy's (and Gal's) become a member of the NRA !!! They are the BEST Orginazition that will help us stand up for our Rights... Think about it, and think HARD.

    Respecfully,

    Mark Schneider
    NRA Life Member
    NRA Benefactor
    Ohio Gun Collectors Member
    D.U. Member
    ATA Member
     
  14. shotgunpeople

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    As a former upstate Central New Yorker, I am sooo glad we moved to the more gun friendly state of South Carolina last year. The weather isn't bad either !!!

    A good friend, Ontario Canada's Delegate Paul Shaw, has been writing articles in Trap and Field about the Canadian laws, and warning us Citizens of the USA for quite some time about being very vigilent about new and upcoming laws proposed here in our country.

    He has told us numerous times how the Canadian laws came into being, and has hoped this would not happen to us here in the States.

    Now it does look as though they will once again be trying to regulate NY State for starters...Fight them New York !!! We had a great Assemblyman in our 129th District in NY, who is now the Minority Leader of the Assembly, Brian Kolb. Please, whether you are, or are not in that Assembly district, write to Brian and let him know your feelings about this bill. He is the NUMBER ONE supporter of gun owners rights in the New York State Asembly.

    Brian started out knowing nothing about guns and gun clubs. When he was running for the Assembly for the first time, he called my wife and told her he had been told that we were strongly involved in local gun clubs, and asked if he could tag along with us to some of them so he could learn about the sport. We ended up taking Brian to many clubs so he could get first hand experience, and today he is, as I mentioned, The NUMBER ONE supporter of the Second Amendment in the NY State Assembly.

    You have one major player on our side people of NY. Get in touch, and tell him your displeasure about this bill...I know he will pass your thoughts to your Assemblyman, and put your thoughts into testimonies.

    Pray to God this doesn't pass....

    Dave Monahan, in South Carolina
     
  15. willing

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    I thought I remember a tax like that in New York City. I had a pistol permit when I lived on Long Island. When I retired I moved to North Carolina without turning in my pistol permit. After about 1 yr I recieved a letter from the
    Suffolk County(NY) police department asking where my permit was and what did I do with my registered pistols. I sent them a letter containing my permit and told them I had transferred my pistols to NC according to federal regulations. Never heard further from them. But, a couple of weeks later I got a call from my NC county sheriff's department and he said that they understood that I had a NY pistol permit. I told him that I had got the letter and had returned the permit. He laughed and said "You know you don't need a permit in NC. I said I did and he then said "Have a good day". Glad to get out of that @#$% place!
    Bill
     
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