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Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by trapaa, Jan 15, 2012.

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  1. trapaa

    trapaa TS Member

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    FYI -
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    This is from the Houston Gun collector's Assn.

    Public service announcement:

    While I was in a Denver gun store today, my car was tagged on the wheel in the parking lot. The gangs do this on wheels or bumpers at gun stores, shooting ranges, gun shows etc. Later when you are parked at a restaurant, hotel, or other location that’s less well guarded or under video surveillance, other gang members spot the marker and break into the car for a quick gun grab. This is so RAMPANT in San Antonio where we were for a National shoot this summer, the police chief of that county came out to brief the 400 participants of our competition. Too bad three teams had already been victimized the first day. This is the first I’ve heard of this in Denver. Please pass this info along to your 2nd amendment list.

    This next comment from a Gunsite instructor:
    I don’t know how widespread this is becoming, but the info regarding the NSCA Nationals in San Antonio is correct, as all of us who compete in sporting clays know. Competitors there were having their vehicles marked with a small adhesive dot on the rear license plate or rear bumper, then followed for miles and having their vehicles quickly and efficiently broken in to when parked for lunch etc.
    Some crews were working the parking lot at the Nationals itself. 27 high end shotguns were taken there recently. They know when 1400 shooters with high $$ competition guns are in town.
    I shot with a young man who was trying out a new gun at the Nationals. He and his father lost all their guns and equipment while making a quick stop for lunch at a BBQ place in Corpus Christi the month before.
     
  2. Hawkeye Kid

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    Maybe you should alarm you mode of transportation.

    Hank
     
  3. Claysmoke27

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    You might want to read the official NSC response to this rumor.
    http://www.nssa-nsca.org/index.php/2012/01/nsc-response-to-rumors-about-gun-thefts/
     
  4. bluskyshooter

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    I dont want to hijack this thread - but was wondering - what do you fellas that travel with your guns ... do when you retire to your hotel room at night ? Do the gun(s) stay in the car ? I would think bringing them into the hotel would be a no-no ? Just curious.
     
  5. grntitan

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    Why would bringing them into your room be a no-no? The few times i have traveled over night with guns, they stayed right by my bed in the hotel room.
     
  6. CharlieAMA

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    My pickup, and my wife's Excursion were broken into at San Antonio at the motel I was staying at. Our Excursion was broken into twice at two different State 4-H shoots, and my pickup got the right rear window broke out during a Fall Handicap Shoot about 2005 or so. The motel was like "Tough shit, you shouldn't have stayed here." The police don't come, they just give you a case number for insurance purposes. I didn't lose anything, but the repairs were expensive. The night my pickup wasbroke into, it rained about an inch, and the back seat off my pickup was soaked. The Mason family from Post, Texas had all of their guns stolen one year, when they arrived late one night at the same motel, for a 4-H shoot. It can happen to anyone, anytime, anywhere. Charlie
     
  7. ebsurveyor

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    Guns stay with me. Had a slight problem is Vegas once. They didn't like me walking through the casino with my gun so I had to leave it in the Guard Shack.
     
  8. ljutic231

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    If you stay at a Hotel or Motel and want your things , you take them into the room with you and you will have them the next day. it is just that simple. Practice the same security away from home as you would at Home. Remove all shooting realated stickers for you Vehicle. Bob R.
     
  9. X Trap 2

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    I like San Antonio's reply. That is my favorite place to shoot.

    If you do not want it stolen take it in. Not just guns. A friend just left his shooting bag and shells in his vehicle. Theifs broke a window out and got what he had left. This was in San Antonio but it can happen anywhere.

    Heard a story where a shooter took his guns and put them in the motel room before going to eat. Returned and they were gone. Either keep them with you or in sight. Or a locker like San Antonio has. Never leave them unattended.

    At my house they broke into my truck and stole a pistol. I never leave any gun in any vehicle anymore.

    At our gun club a gun disappeared from a locked truck during an annual board meeting. Clubs need a LOT of cameras to protect the members property at all times. Security is not that expensive as it once was. Ray
     
  10. grntitan

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    And people made an issue about all the IL State Police at the Grand in Sparta the first year. Never did understand why that was such a bad thing. At least the theives got the message.
     
  11. skeet_man

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    My car was broken into in 2010 in Dallas. My guns and gear were in the motel room (ammo was in the trunk, but there's no way I'm lugging that in and out every night, if they can get to it, they can have it and I'll buy factories for the shoot). They broke the passengers side window and stole my GPS (my bad for leaving it in the window, I left it there for years when I was home, and never even gave it a 2nd though). Didn't really care about the GPS, as I needed a new one anyways, but it sucked to pay $200 out of pocket for a new window. I now have full glass coverage LOL.

    My car was close enough that I could have taken the guy out with buckshot from the window of my room.

    There is not a chance that I'm leaving my gun in the car overnight. I'm not even comfortable leaving it in the car when I'm at dinner or making a quick stop @ Walmart, but full value insurance helps alleviate my nervousness.
     
  12. Rich219

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    When I'm out of state in a hotel room my shotgun comes into the hotel room and my Glock goes on the night stand.
     
  13. Reinz

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    I was a traveling salesman for over 20 years. I covered NE Texas and Southern OK. Not only did I have my carry guns but being a gun addict I hit every gun shop and pawn shop in every town, thus I alway had new toys with me.

    My guns and valuables are with me at all times. They go into the hotel room with me and then I pack them back up when I go out to eat.
    I unloaded long guns and anything that could not be concealed at night and when activity was low, i.e., no nosey neighbors.


    No gun affiliated stickers on my car.

    Never leave "bait" in veiw in the vehicle, i.e., nice sunglasses, GPS, phone, laptop, briefcase, etc. Cover them up! Tinted windows are not enough!

    I never had a break in on the road as a salesman for over 20 years or as competitor traveling for over 10 years after that.


    When at a restaurant, I try to park near a window and sit close to that window to keep an eye on my car/truck.

    Maybe it is luck, maybe brains, maybe my Gaurdian Angel. I am thankful.
     
  14. APrice

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    Like Dixie Special, I feel much better with my guns inside my truck and cabled tightly to the seat frames. This won't stop a determined and well-equipped thief, but should really put the brakes on the smash & grab opportunist. Of course, the guns go inside the room with me and I choose restaurants where I can keep an eye on my truck. If that's not possible, get the food to go!
     
  15. Joe Potosky

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    Bringing a shotgun into a motel.

    Purchase a duffel bag and put the case in it. I purchased an oversize one at Gander Mt. a few years back. One with a zipper on top. Two 1100's in break down cases fit or a couple of O/U. Two shooters in the family...

    I used a motel dolly at the last two motels I stayed, traveling through the lobby to the elevator with guns in the duffel bag and no one the wiser.

    Don't forget the GPS and mount...
     
  16. Dr.Longshot

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    I Take my gun to my room at Las Vegas and any other place I stay at, And I hug her at night baby, she doesn't bitch or get drunk.


    GB
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  17. Animal

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    When traveling long distances to various armorors courses or training with departmental firearms, FA's, high end rifles, assorted handguns, I "NEVER" took my eyes off of them at any time. I was usually not alone, so it made it easy. Whatever event that I may have been going to, whether personal or professional, I went through a food drive through or one of us went and picked up take out. If you can, travel with a partner or a shooting buddy. And yes, "ALWAYS" take your guns into the hotel room with you and keep a ready defensive means close at hand at all times. There is no hotel employee that on their own personal whim can interfere with my constitutional right to protect my own property. If the hotel has documented policy, then the owners are communist anyways and I will choose another hotel that appreciates my business and the second amendment. There are roving hoards of evil scumbags just waiting in the shadows. I always set up my travel plans in advance and choose upscale hotels with inside room access only, but that doesn't mean I trust the hotel staff, their security or other guests. Those flea bag motels that have the room doors on the outside are visible to all of the scroats looking to take your stuff and provide an express lane to your front door. If for whatever reason if you absolutely have to go out when staying in a hotel, hang the "Do Not Disturb" sign on the door and leave the TV blaring. When my travels include firearms and shooting, I'm not in the party mode where it would be necessary to leave any guns at risk. For those who get lazy, complacent or think that there is no way a thief can get to you, I guarantee you will eventually be a victim. I've interviewed enough criminals over the past 30 years to know a little about this subject. Do not take anything for granted and do not underestimate the sophistication of criminals and especially criminal gangs. I've also learned that I can talk about this subject til I'm blue in the face, but there are those people who just do not listen and will never get it; and therefore, will be and continue to be among the decent victims of these criminal parisites. Hope this will be helpful to someone. Dave S.
     
  18. bridgetoofar

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    Claymore in the trunk.
     
  19. Auctioneer

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    I remember years ago in the 70's someone use to sell a spray that you would say put on the top side of the door. IF someone who didn't know it was there would open the door and it would pull a pin and you got sprayed with a purple pink or red dye. It wouldn't wash off. It had to wear off. LOL. If you could mount it in your truck or back of your truck you just marked someone for the cops to spot a mile away. Don't know if they are made any more but I to would like to find them if they are.

    Guns and things come inside the room with me. Some places that you stay don't like having guns in their place but hey I paid for the room and its tough sh!t. Shut up and keep your things covered and no one will know a thing. My handgun is also on the night stand.

    When staying in the room its hard to leave them when going out to eat. I order out and have it brought to the room. That way you don't leave your guns alone.

    When on the road and need something to eat as one said park where you can watch your car or truck from where you are seated. When at a hotel I will also try to park right infront of the lobby door. That area is well traveled and has the most light. I also ask how often the cops come through the lots.

    One important thing. DON'T LOOK LIKE A GOOD VICTIM. Watch what is going on around you. You hear someone coming, walking or driving in stop what your doing and check it out. Look and make sure people see that you are doing so. Don't act like a sheep and jump like one with every sound. Let people know when traveling that you will make noise if you have to. The bad guys want someone to keep quiet when being robbed. Noise they don't want.

    When pumping gas the bad guys have been known to open your door on the other side of the car from the tank and steal what ever. That was on Nightly News. It showed a lady pumping her gas and had no idea that someone was opening her other door and stealing her purse. In other words lock your doors when pumping gas.
     
  20. b12

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    I had a cousin that was traveling with some buddies a few years back and the stay at an uper end hotel. Durring the night when they were all asleep someone sneaked in and stole all their money they had in their pants, nightstand had watches and jewerly. They never recvered and of the monetary value of it. Bill
     
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