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NEW SENATE GUN REGISTRATION BILL - S.843

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Brian in Oregon, Apr 25, 2009.

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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    'Gun show’ bill registers private gun sales with Attorney General<br>
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    and FBI; potentially reaches into your home<br>
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    Senator Lautenberg at a press conference introducing legislation
    to close the "gun show loophole." He was joined at the event by
    Sens. Jack Reed (D-RI) and Dianne Feinstein (D-CA); Paul Helmke,
    President of the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence; Sue
    Else, President of National Network to End Domestic Violence;
    and victims and family members of the Virginia Tech tragedy.
    Photo courtesy of Sen. Frank Lauternberg.<br>
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    The language for S. 843, Senator Frank Lautenberg’s bill to close the mythical “gun show loophole,” is now available on THOMAS (Library of Congress) and, despite naysayers’ doubts, it is every bit as bad as expected. For reasons stipulated below, this is almost certainly the first gun bill Democrats will try to move.<br>
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    CONTENTS OF THE BILL<br>
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    As I predicted, S. 843 is nearly identical to S. 2577, Lautenberg’s gun show bill of the last (110th) Congress. It is a massive gun registration and licensing scheme which, in reality stretches beyond gun shows.<br>
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    Here are the specifics, with referring proposed statutes:<br>
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    * Gun show promoters must register with the Attorney General (AG): Within the bill, however, are absolutely no restrictions on the AG with regard registration requirements or fees. If you have any doubts about how AG Eric Holder will construe such requirements, click HERE. [Sec. 932(a)(1)&(2)]<br>
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    * You are a “vendor” and subject to registration if you wish to sell even a single firearm: The promoter must obtain from you a government ID and retain a photo and a ledger signed by you for “such period of time and in such form as the Attorney General shall require…” (Read that: Permanently). “That’s not so bad,” you say, “After all, it isn’t as though the government is registering me.” No? Well how about this one:<br>
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    “…the Attorney General may enter during business hours the place of business of any gun show promoter and any place where a gun show is held for the purposes of examining the records required by sections 923 and 932 and the inventory of licensees conducting business at the gun show. Such entry and examination shall be conducted for the purposes of determining compliance with this chapter by gun show promoters and licensees conducting business at the gun show and shall not require a showing of reasonable cause or a warrant.” [Sec. 932(b)(1)&(2), Sec. 923(g)(1)] [Emphasis added]<br>
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    * All gun sales would be registered, and not just be the computerized National Instant Check System (NICS), but directly to the Attorney General. Sec. 932(e)(1) & (2) require licensed gun dealers to keep separate bound records and forms for each transaction. Although the report doesn’t include the name of the buyer, his or her name could be easily retrieved using the firearm serial number … which, again, can be obtained at any time by the AG. Moreover, if you have the gall to buy more than one handgun in five days, the dealer must report you not only to the AG but to your state of residence by the close of business on the same day. [Sec. 932(e)(4) & (5)]<br>
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    * S. 843 extends beyond gun shows: The key here is language which applies the law “if any part of a firearm transaction takes place at a gun show.” Translated, if you run into a friend and say, “Nice Perazzi, Harry. How much are you asking? Only $10,000?” you are required to register the transaction if you later buy the shotgun, even if the transaction takes place in your home.<br>
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    * Penalties: Don’t worry, gentle readers. If you violate any of these laws, intentionally or accidentally, you are only subject to two years imprisonment (five for repeat offenses). The gun show promoter and licensed dealer, on the other hand, may be imprisoned for five years or even ten years for “serious recordkeeping violations.” Makes you want to be a gun dealer, doesn’t it?<br>
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    CONSTITUTIONALITY<br>
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    One canny reader of Thursday's piece on S. 843 asked how such a bill could possibly be constitutional. The answer lies in Article I, Section 8, under which Congress may “...regulate Commerce with foreign Nations, and among the several States, and with the Indian Tribes...” Guns move in interstate commerce, and federal gun laws are frequently justified under various, tortured interpretations of this clause.<br>
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    THIS IS THE BILL THEY WILL MOVE<br>
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    As fellow examiner Kurt Hofmann expressed it, S, 843 is “low hanging fruit.” Other gun control proposals, such as a ban on semi-automatic firearms, have drawn intense opposition. Democratic leadership is avoiding them until the time is right. A “gun show” bill, on the other hand, seems “reasonable” to uninformed voters. Their intentions are telegraphed by the fact Lautenberg has signed on eleven powerful Democrats as sponsors.<br>
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    The rest is up to you: If you do nothing, Reid, Pelosi et al. will move this bill. If they succeed, Democrats will be emboldened, and will follow shortly thereafter with a semi-auto ban. This is precisely what they did in the 1990s, when they first ran the Brady Act, following it closely with the so-called” assault weapon” ban.<br>
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    IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUIRED<br>
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    S. 843 has been assigned to the Senate Judiciary Committee, chaired by Sen. Patrick Leahy (D-VT). Immediately contact members of the committee and deliver the message, loud and clear, that you will not tolerate this or any other gun control bill from the 111th Congress. It is particularly important that you contact your senator if he or she is on the committee.<br>
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    To find contact information for your U.S. senator, go to:<br>
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    http://senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm?OrderBy=state&Sort=ASC<br>
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    To contact other members of the Judiciary Committee:<br>
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    The 19 members of the Judiciary Committee are listed in the link above. Congressional legislators often use e-mail contact forms in an attempt to ignore input from outside their district. If you are not in the legislator’s district, first try to find a direct e-mail. Failing that, a fax or phone call is best. Since mail processing safeguards were applied to Congress in the early 2001, mail may be slow to arrive.
     
  2. Bushmaster1313

    Bushmaster1313 Well-Known Member

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    Four out of nine Supreme Court Justices and many influential members of Congress do not believe that the 2nd Amendment gives people the right to keep and bear arms.

    They are of course entitled to their beliefs, but it is sad that the party which prided itself as the standard bearer of individual liberty has lost its bearings.

    I am afraid that freedom and liberty is going to be lost -- not with a bang -- but with a whimper :(

    Lou
     
  3. Don Steele

    Don Steele Well-Known Member

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    The MOST onerous control and confiscation stuff will come along AFTER they get this kind of crap enacted. Thanks to the activism of shooters, the left wing has come to realize that they need to REDUCE the number of active law-abiding shooters. Their reloading control agenda is designed to take out the most active, most involved segment of the gun owning public. Once that lobby has been reduced, they'll be able to do whatever they want. REMEMBER...the left has studied Chairman Mao and Ho Chi Minh...they understand "The Long View".
     
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