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New pedofile accusations

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by halfmile, Nov 18, 2011.

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  1. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Another chicken lover exposed. Syracuse U Basketball coach Bernie fine is on the hot seat.

    Probably not the last.

    HM
     
  2. Stl Flyn

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    Seems the flood gates are about to open up. They found child porn on a Pastor's computer outside of Milwaukee, and another coach in Texas is now accused of pedofile behavior. People are starting to come forward into the open now that others have broken the ice, so to speak.
     
  3. Tron

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    I thought this thread was going to be about the Literalist.
     
  4. likes-to-shoot

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    Makes you wonder how many are false claims so the accuser can get his 10 minutes of fame or some easy hush money.

    Just how do some of these people defend themselves if the claimers say the offense happened 10 - 20 years ago?
     
  5. Claymuncher

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    Take it all with many grains of salt! Or just ignore it like I do.........CM
     
  6. Leo

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    It is terrible any such crime would be commited to a young child. I was always quick to condem anyone accused. I person I meet through my profession changed my attitude.

    The woman is now middle aged, but when she was about 13 her mother married another man. The daughter didn't like the guy and started to make up molestation lies about him. She kept her story straight and the man ended up in prison for several years, her mother, thinking he was a monster divorced him. He lost his career, his home, and of his assets while he was in prison. Even after prison his life was ruined and the one time business man spent the rest of his life in substandard jobs and living in poverty. The girl never thought a single care for 20 years until she realized what she did and now she is depressed from the pressure of her guilt. My research on the subject found that hers was not an isolated case.

    I still believe that most of the time, the adults who are accused are probably in the wrong, but it is truely possible that the minor could make up the story. Because of a lack of moral compass in the generations of youth lately, and the lack of any moral absolutes, a young person is even now more likely to use the power of lying to get their way. If you mentor children, most organizations have had to establish more strict written policies to protect both sides.
     
  7. cnsane

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    I believe the standard was set for us by the Media in the McMartin Preschool Trial debacle. To para-phrase ",,, and then let God sort them out!"
     
  8. Stl Flyn

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    Leo makes a great point. I would extend that to anyone that could gain from destroying someone elses career, to improve theirs. Revenge is a powerful emotion. Children that want to get their way, and can't handle the word no, can destroy a life, just by accusations of this type. It amazes me how many times I have heard kids say things in anger, that if someone in particular overheard them could cause a whole lot of trouble. These accusations are very serious and should be investigated immediatly, but the accused are always immediately guilty until proven innocent. All a child has to do is say it happened. There does not even have to be any, or not much evidence, and you will be in for the battle of your life.
     
  9. halfmile

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    The McMartin story is a sad one. It just shows how people with an agenda can destroy someone if they have the opportunity.

    Those kids were coached relentlessly in order for the prosecutors to acquire fame and fortune. 7 years and 15 million dollars for an alcoholic's revenge.

    Sick.

    HM
     
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    As a municipal employee, I am forbidden to be in the same room ALONE with a child, not my own... I have to alert all parents who bring young adults or children into the clubhouse that they cannot leave them unattended...

    Boy Scouts require a buddy system at all times when working with a badge counselor...

    Jay
     
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    My good friends father was railroaded like the guy in Leo's post, he could have gotten out of it but he ran out of money to pay his lawyer so he ended up in jail for some time

    I've met his Dad many times and there is no way in hell he would have done that, but it was some low life kids that he helped, then they came back for more money and when he told them no they got mad and made up the story

    Truly sad

    But if the A hole is guilty, shoot them
     
  12. Model Number 12

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    Like others here, I also know of an incident where a rotten kid falsly accused her father of molestation because she did not like the discipline of her home. The kid was removed from the home and placed in state custody while her parents were treated as the most heinious of criminals. Even after it was proven that the kid made the story up, the state still permitted the kid to remain in a foster home because she was "uncomfortable" returning to live with her parents.

    Now the girl is a single mother living off welfare and her family will not speak to her. The combination of false accusations and overbearing state involvement destroyed the family.

    Where do kids learn to do this?
     
  13. John Galt

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    When my daughters were young I had a rule that they weren't allowed to have any friends come into our house to play unless my wife or another adult was present. When it comes to child sexual abuse, men are guilty until proven innocent, so I made sure I had a witness to prove my innocence if needed. Never had a problem with that, but my obnoxious daughter did falsely accuse me of choking her. The CPS investigated but it didn't go anywhere since she didn't so much as have a fingerprint on her neck. Had to listen to the dingbat at CPS prattle on for a couple of hours though.

    Kids now know that they have all the power. All they have to do is call CPS and you are guilty unless you can prove your innocence. They love to say "I'm going to call CPS unless you do what they want or don't do what they don't want.
     
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    30 years later, some psychologist implants the thought into the 41 year old man that maybe, just maybe, that was the source of all his problems...
     
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    I remember the one and only time my child attempted to pull that "or I'll call the Law" bull$h!+. I told her we would still love her but she would never live here again. Not by my choice, but by State mandate. Also told her she wouldn't be an only child going to McD's in the back of a Benz to get the latest Happy Meal. She'd be eating hamburger helper along with her five older foster sisters and wearing their hand-me-downs while they all shared a bedroom. Child then decided her school teachers were giving her bad advice about how to handle getting punished.
     
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    At our Church, the insurance company said put TWO adults in each Sunday School class NOW. I guess thats for the Church's own good, but of all places......
     
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