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NEW old winchester paper shells

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Ray Zeilinger, Jun 17, 2012.

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  1. Ray Zeilinger

    Ray Zeilinger Member

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    My father has a few of these old winchester paper shells. He would like to know when they would have been manufactured, and what they might be worth. These are brand new in original box. The code on the inside of flap reads G49RH21. Any help is appreciated.

    Thanks, Ray
     
  2. Hitapair

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    Late 50's to early 60's

    Might as well keep the box and shells as they won't bring much. If the box is full, $10-15 would be the range.
     
  3. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Early 70's the box on the right was when they first started making plastic rangers
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  4. grntitan

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    TOOLMAKER,

    You make me sick.....LOL. Is there anything you don't have in your collection? Seems like you always have a mint example of everything vintage we discuss here. I'm envious is all. :)
     
  5. goony

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    The box in the upper picture was made in the late 50's but prior to April 1 1961 which is when they introduced the "Mark 5" shot collar. Those were they foil boxes. The plastic boxes were made around 1964 which is when they started making the compression formed hulls. They did made the plastic poly formed hulls prior and the compression formed hulls at the same time.
     
  6. goony

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    The box in the upper picture was made in the late 50's but prior to April 1 1961 which is when they introduced the "Mark 5" shot collar. Those were they foil boxes. The plastic boxes were made around 1964 which is when they started making the compression formed hulls. They did made the plastic poly formed hulls prior and the compression formed hulls at the same time.
     
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    I loved those paper Super Targets....and I loved reloading them on my P/W....
     
  8. TOOLMAKER 251

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    Some more oldies for Matt's viewing, all these are paper. Notice the picture with 2 box's, the Rem says loaded with Red Dot, the Win says for franchised gun clubs only.
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  9. dead on 4

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    They appear to be eight point not rolled crimps which would put them in the 60's Worth $8-10

    Toolmakers box of Expert are mix of steel and brass, at least the one on the far right has a steel head. People complain about Euro trash shells with steel heads, nothing new; Western was manufacturing economy steel based loads 50 years ago.

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  10. wm rike

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    Gonny's April, 1961 cutoff date is correct for these shells. Star crimps on all the Winchester & Remington paper hulls were six-point.
     
  11. dead on 4

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    wm rike, your right 6 point, had my head in a dark place. I should know better, I'm sitting on 5000 of them.

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  12. Straight50

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    These old shells and box's make a nice addition to a man cave. You can spend hundreds and even thousands for a box of vintage shotgun shells, but you can also get some fairly old ones for less than a $100. Some of the "out of business" store brands are still available fairly cheap (Montgomery Wards, Sears, Western Auto, Gambels, etc.)to name a few. Nothing like the old paper shells to bring back lots of memories of cold mornings afield or in a duck boat or blind. High brass bases running a third of the way up the case. Roll crimps or the new fangled star crimps. Herters new plastic cases, and Alcan powders. A great hobby collecting them and other accessories, such as metal gun oil cans, cleaning kits etc.
    As someone said above, I would keep them and display them atop the gunsafe or build a shelf for them. Wrap them in shrink wrap and they will last a loooong time.
     
  13. Ray Zeilinger

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    sorry about the huge image to start with, i resized it so it's easier to see. my dad has about 50-60 of these brand new full boxes of winchesters, and maybe 20 boxes of the same vintage peters papers. i will try to get pictures of the peters and post. I thank you all for the feed-back. Ray
     
  14. pj 999

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    From the 1961 Grand and a few Experts.
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  15. tomaso

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    slight hijack. does anybody know if winchester made the markV foil box in .410? thanks tom mc
     
  16. goony

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    I have never seen the foil boxes in 28 or 410.
     
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