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New .17 winchester Super Magnum

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Shooting Jack, Jan 5, 2013.

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  1. Shooting Jack

    Shooting Jack Active Member

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    Interested in purchasing one and my understanding is that Savage has a bolt action in this caliber. I have not been able to find one or even what model it is. Any help. Jackie B.
     
  2. Joe Woods

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    17 Hornet by Hornady

    Joe Woods/Ontario
     
  3. djcuda

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    The Savage is a moel 25 in the .17 Hornet.It is on Savages website.
    Dave
     
  4. fast gun

    fast gun Active Member

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    This will probably be a fun round to shoot I really dont need one ( too many 17s ) The 2013 hodgdon reloading annual manual has an artical abuot the 17 hornet along with loading data It only takes 9.0 gr powder to get over 3600fps cheap to shoot
     
  5. trappair

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    I am not sure. but I think he is refering to the new rimfire round that Winchester is bringing out. the .17 win super magnum . They are supposed to run 3000 fps with 20 gn bullit. Read about it on rimfirecentral.com. I have not heard of a rifle for it at this time. Sounds like it may be a fun round. Mike Ruggieri
     
  6. fast gun

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    Thanks mike for the update I havent heard about this round but I will check it out Up for another toy
     
  7. Shooting Jack

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    I am talking about the new 17 win super mag ammo. There was a article in Guns and Ammo some time back about it and was tested with a Savage rifle. I think it will be a fun little gun. Jackie B.
     
  8. Brian in Oregon

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    And another old classic wildcat goes commercial.
     
  9. jim brown

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    Don't know too many people who were wildcatting .27 cal nail gun brass.


    jim brown
     
  10. Brian in Oregon

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    My bad, I was thinking of the new Hornet based cartridge.
     
  11. crusha

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    Jim,


    I necked mine down and use it to shoot staples.


    buzzy
     
  12. Anthony12ga

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    .17 Winchester Super Magnum. Its case was a .27-caliber powder reservoir used in industrial construction to drive fasteners into concrete. In converting it to a rifle round, Winchester engineers made it thicker and stronger to withstand the pressures inherent in pushing a bullet down a barrel. Then they necked it down to .17. The 20-grain rounds averaged 3,023 fps and the 25-grain ones went 2,625 as measured 10 feet from the muzzle.


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    Left to right: .22 Long Rifle, .22 WMR, .17 HMR, two .17 Winchester Super Magnums




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    L. to R. 22 LR, 22 WMR, 17 HMR, 17 WSM 20 gr., 17WSM 25 gr., 22 Hornet.
     
  13. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    I'm very ignorant about the 17 cal. rimfire guns. I want an autoloader and understand that Ruger made one with little success. What are the pros of the .17 over the .22 mag? Are there any new autoloaders on the horizon that are bored for either of these loads that show promise?
     
  14. skeet_man

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    Autoloaders and .17 rimfire cartridges don't seem to jive too well. Remington recalled all of theirs. It has to do with timing the bolt blowback properly, too much one way and it won't function, too much the other way and the brass will fail, and "just right" is a fine line which no manufacturer has really been able to hit yet. I imagine this new round will be the same way, limited to non-semi auto guns.
     
  15. trappair

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    I have a Volquartsen that works very well . Have had it on quite a few pdog shoots. It is trouble free. I think Magnum Research may still makr one, not sure. No other autos that I know off. Mike Ruggieri
     
  16. Brian in Oregon

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    There are two 17 HMR semi-autos that work.

    Volquartsen has one based on a 10-22 Magnum. It has a rod attached to the bolt that runs under the forend to a weight. This provides enough total bolt mass to make blowback operation possible.

    Alexander Arms makes a 17 HMR AR15 upper. It also is blowback operated, but the bolt spring and bolt itself were specifically designed for the pressure curve of the 17 HMR.
     
  17. Barry C. Roach

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    Thanks guys. Brian. I have been looking on the net for pricing of the Volquartsen and have only seen them for MSRP. Is that what I should be paying for it?
     
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    If they're anything like my .17 Remington buy a good cleaning rod and plenty of patches-you'll need 'em!!
     
  19. cubancigar2000

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    The 17 is my favorite to play with. Just love it
     
  20. trappair

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    Bryan, I do not recogonize the Volquarzon you speak of. Mine is not a Ruger modified. It does use the Ruger magazine. The bolt and barrel are made and imported by them. The triger group is also made by them, but will fit the 10-22. The bolt and recoil spring is built to handle the pressure of the HMR. Mine does not have a spring running to under the forearm. I have a friend who has one , his is built like mine ecept has a different barrel. They are really cool and fun to shoot, have shot mine several hundred times between cleaning.
    Mine has the carbon fiber barrel which Volquartzen say to use only a bore snake to clean. Very accurate but on the pricey side. Mike Ruggieri
     
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