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Never shot a gun Question ???

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by ouch, Jan 13, 2009.

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  1. ouch

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    I have taught many people how to shoot a gun, Young,old,male,female. I can not remember ever teaching a man in his late 50's that has never fired a rifle,shotgun,BB gun or at least a cap gun sometime in there life. But I am preparing to do this.

    A very good friend ask me to help this man learn to shoot, He has already purchased a new Marlin bolt action,Magazine fed .22 rifle. His goals are to learn first with iron sights then possibly a scope. There is no desire to hunt,Just plinking and paper punching.

    He has an extremely high IQ and is very computer cabable. My questions are, Can you recomend some web sites he could visit that will start him out at step one? And some sites I could visit to help me teach him. Thank you ! Richard
     
  2. spritc

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    Try the NRA website.
     
  3. wolfram

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    Given his age I'll assume he is like most of us that are finding iron sights more and more difficut to use. A low cost and really fun solution is a large diameter red dot optic. I recently put one on my daughter's first .22 and liked it so much I'm getting one for my own plinker. Really fast and accurate out to 50 yards or so. That is a tech tip for starters.

    Now for the actual training, a lot can be done before the actual shooting lessons. The focus needs to be on gun handling, specifically how to hold the rifle so that the muzzle doesn't sweep anyone. From there work on familurizing him with the operation of the gun, items like the function of the bolt and safety, how the cartridges feed into the firing chamber, what to expect upon firing, checking loaded/unloaded status, dry firing. When its time to shoot use reactive targets of some kind, keep the fun level high. Bouncing a pop can down range is fun, spinning empty shotshells is fun, shooting paper is boring and can be humiliating.

    Have fun above all, don't try to push the technical aspects to fast.
     
  4. stokinpls

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    Muzzle safety. Muzzle safety. Muzzle safety.

    No matter how smart you are, or experienced, somewhere, sometime you're going to f'up and, hopefully, you'll be lucky and the muzzle will be pointed in a safe place.

    The rest is just have fun.
     
  5. shooterIII

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    I would start him on the iron sights and explained how to use them. Also stress the Safety, Safety, Safety. After he has shot some I would recommend a hunter safety course if your state has them. Although I had shot and hunted for 30 years I took the course because some of the western states required a Firearms Safety Certificate, and I wanted to hunt the West, and still learned. If he hesitates, offer to go with him, it's a lot of fun. I had some fun with the kids that were there, and they gave me a hard time because I was "Old" so I made a deal with them that if I didn't get a perfect score I would buy them Pizza, and if I did they would buy my Pizza after the class. "I got free Pizza."

    Stan
     
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    My 2 cents, if he is wearing bi or tri focal glasses go, straight to using a scope with the 22 and don't bother with open sights to start.

    Jason
     
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    It is important for a first timer to understand the concept and relationship of iron sights even if a scope or dot might be more accurate. Also all the concepts of safety; muzzle awareness, every gun is loaded, never trust a safety, etc. Dry firing a empty 22 can result in damage. Go slow, be patient, have fun.
     
  8. Hauxfan

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    It is also important to teach him what the gun/shell can actually do.

    Here is what I did when teaching my sons.

    I set some potato's out and shot them with some hollow point .22's. Of course they exploded, which was my intent.

    This really got their attention and as far as I know, and it must have made a lasting impression, as I never had to say anything else to them about guns and safety.

    Safety is always stressed. Every lesson starts and ends with safety.

    Good luck and I'm sure the gentleman will have a great time.

    Hauxfan!
     
  9. Phil E

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    I'd start just where you have with youth and woman non-shooters. I always start with a classroom session. His smarts is pretty irrelevant at this point, we all start here with the basics & treated as a rank beginner. NRA safety rules, muzzle awareness, dominant eye, repeat rule # 1 (all guns are always loaded,) the importance of keeping the trigger finger indexed unless the muzzle's on target, handling and manipulating the gun he'll shoot, repeat safety rules, sight picture, maybe a diagram of a cartridge's cross-section and a discussion of various cartridges and gun types. You can get pamphlets and brochures for beginners at the NRA (above link.) Basically, have maybe a couple hours of classroom, working from a list of all the points you want to cover. Draw him a picture of a proper sight picture. Then if it's a nice day, after a snack have a relaxed hour or two on the range. Bring eyes & ears for both of you. Stress muzzle awareness repeatedly, & praise what he does right. Begin on a bench with sandbags, teaching basics of sight picture, breathing, trigger press, follow-through. Start out live-fire with you holding the ammo, and handing him one round at a time to load & fire. Watch his trigger finger before & after he's fired to see that it's indexed off the trigger. Let him load 3 at a time when you see he's relaxed & safe. There's nothing wrong with having notes on 3X5 cards, so you do everything in proper sequence & don't forget something. Phil E
     
  10. jakearoo

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    I understand that Dick Cheney learned to shoot and hunt after he was 50. That worked out well, eh?
     
  11. ouch

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    Thanks for the help, I was really hoping for some sites he could check out on the web before we start.But I am gratefull for the pointers. Richard
     
  12. John E

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    Richard try www.guntalk.tv lots of helpful videos for every one from beginner to advanced hopefully he can find something helpful in here.good luck john
     
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