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Need Pheasant Habitat help

Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by Doug Brown, Sep 17, 2009.

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  1. Doug Brown

    Doug Brown Well-Known Member

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    Two friends & myself have farms that we are trying to turn into great pheasant spots. We live in SE Nebraska. We have hedge rows, ponds, food plots, grass, weeds, bushes etc, but very few phesants. Looking for some ideas. Thanks
     
  2. Fast Oil

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    Pheasants Forever
     
  3. bridgetoofar

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    A good start would be to kill all the hawks, owls and yotes.
     
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    I'm with bridge-just don't get caught exterminating the first two!!
     
  5. OldRemFan

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    You describe great quail country, but if you take an arms length look at areas that have great pheasant hunting, it is usually areas similiar to Western Kansas, parts of Nebraska and the Dakotas. That sort of habitat is usually more open type terain, with very few trees for perches and brooding places for birds of prey, less farm houses to produce cats that go wild and live off the land (usually birds), not many raccoons that like raw eggs, fence rows full of tumble weeds for cover, waterways for nesting, and wheat and milo fields for feeding and loafing. I grew up on a farm in an area like what you describe and almost always found their are a some pheasants, but not large numbers of them year after year. Almost always had great quail hunting though. In my hands on experience I have always thought the habitat for other birds and animals that like pheasants had a large effect on the pheasant population.
     
  6. Setterman

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    It's not just the hawks and owls. Skunks, possum, and coon will raid a nest of eggs before the nest is even hatched. Domestic cats and owls are hard on the chicks.
     
  7. cubancigar2000

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    I used to hunt a large farm in south dakota ( 8000 acres) and the owner begged us to shoot the owls as they killed more pheasants than you can imagine
     
  8. birdogs

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    I have done a lot of habitat work on our 1000 acres. It is not easy and not cheap. The worst thing you can do is to go off in the wrong direction. Therefore, you should get the best advice and assistance available. I would start by contacting Pheasants Forever and the Wildlife Habitat Incentives Program of the USDA. They can give you the correct adivice and perpahs help with the expense.
     
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    In Tenn if you are turning land back for wildlife the Tennessee wildlife resource agency will come out and do a assessment and tell you what you can do to help bring your land back up to standards at no charge, but I don't not know if your state or fed agency will do the same for you but it would be worth it to check in to.

    thanks
    lee
     
  10. shooterIII

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    Contact your local Pheasants Forever Chapter and ask them for help. They can tell you what you will need to do.
     
  11. Setterman

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    Delta Waterfowl has documented that trapping Fox, Skunks, and other nest robbers increased hatch rate from 20% to 48%.
     
  12. handlepuller

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    Contact Kyle Thompson at Prairie Land Management.

    He just did a project on my land and it's going to be great. His philosophy for habitat is 1/3 woody cover, 1/3 grassy cover and 1/3 food source. He's full of info.

    info@habitatnow.com

    www.habitatnow.com

    John Houle
     
  13. gdbabin

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    Where is our very own favorite Pheasantmaster???? Out in his pheasant habitat I'll bet!


    Guy Babin
     
  14. wireguy

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    I once read a report that was, I think, done by the California Dept of Fish and Game about wild pheasant success. They found that the number one thing that created large numbers of birds surviving to adulthood was the first weeks of the chick's life. To that end what they discovered was that an understory of plants with wide brimmed "hats" and a tall - say, a foot - narrow stem, spaced loosely enough so the chicks could move freely through them, rendered the chicks invisible to overhead predators and provided the moist shaded environment that produced good insect growth, which is what the chicks eat during the first few weeks of their lives. Only later do the birds transition to grains and such. They had tremendous success with pheasant numbers right in the midst of a coyote den area. They found they had to artificially farm and water for this specific understory, and when they did pheasant numbers exploded.
     
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    Contacting Pheasants Forever (PF) is a great idea. You may also want to consider attending the PF PheasantFest in February, 2010 in Des Moines, Iowa. PF will have personnel there to work with landowners on upgrading their property for wildlife. You would need to call them to see what you would need to bring in the way of information on your property. And PheasantFest is fun.

    DoubleAuto
     
  16. Jawhawker

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    In response to Mr. GB.

    Doug, the wealth of info available to you on the above website is why I have repeated the listing. You can easily view all the requirements. It would be along thread for me to explain what, how and why you need what you will to get the desired results. Keep inmind that depending on exactly what you mean by SE Nebraska, this area has never been known to my knowledge for a stronghold. You can definetly enhance the conditions however to provide the best denominator available.

    One of the strongest PF Chapters in the country is at Lincoln. I believe they are number two or three in what they have done both monetarily and habitat. The site above will provide easy links to all this.

    One final consideration for you is to have yourself and buddies join your local area chapter.

    Any questions feel free to PM me.
     
  17. Doug Brown

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    FYI- I am a PF Committe member as well as both my friends. Seems everyone has a different idea about what to do, but no one has long term success. I agrre we have more quail than pheasants, but we used to shoot 50-60 pheasants a year while hunting qual, now it's 5 or 6. Still looking for the magic answer.
     
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    What we need is the ability to implant wild birds in new habitat areas. Pen raised birds won't make it very long. Too bad we can't get interstate agreements on trading game birds periodically. I'll trade some wild turkeys for a few wild pheasants!
     
  19. recurvyarcher

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    Yup, our son Brad raised a big flock of baby pheasants a couple of years ago. After he turned them loose, there weren't any more pheasants than usual come time to hunt them. It was a waste of time and money.
     
  20. Doug Brown

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    How does South Dakota do it?
     
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