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Need a soft load

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Jim Porter, Jul 2, 2013.

  1. Jim Porter

    Jim Porter Well-Known Member

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    Little help please! I have a 17yr old young lady of small stature that shows promise on the trap line. Problem is that to this point she shoots well with a field gun (20 to 22) for a round or so and then gets tired of the weight and I think recoil. I have arranged a BT99 with a reducer and cut the stock length and comb to fit her. Now I need a soft load that performs. Data lists loads of all sorts but that often means that it will work but not necessarily that it will smack targets.
    This is to be a 16 yard 1 oz load out of a imp mod. I have Clays and Int Clays, Red and Green Dot, 2400 and unique to play with. All sorts of hulls, even papers
    Suggestions please.
     
  2. jm1079

    jm1079 Well-Known Member

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    I use 3/4 oz loads in my bt99 and are deadly from the 16 yard but very soft shooting. I use Claybuster 3/4 oz wads (1075). Hope this gives you a starting point. JM
     
  3. Oregunner

    Oregunner Well-Known Member

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    Remington hulls, 17.2 grains of Clay Dot, Claybuster wad (use the correct one depending on how much shot) So, CB0175-12 for 3/4 oz, or CB0178-12 for 7/8 oz, or CB1100-12 for 1 oz. Any medium primer (I use Fiocchi 616) The softest one will be the 3/4 oz load, which will work fine at 16 yards. Let her work up to the larger shot payloads as she gets comfortable with the recoil. Check out the link to the recoil calculator. It's amazing how much less recoil there is when you start dropping shot charge weight. Mark
     
  4. Aintlost

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    I load 7/8 shot in AA hull with 14.2 grns of Extra Lite for my 12 year son (85lbs) in his new BT99 Midas, Please refer to Alliant Reloading Manual or Website.

    It will smoke a target from 16 yrds
     
  5. Aintlost

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    I load 7/8 shot in AA hull with 14.2 grns of Extra Lite for my 12 year son (85lbs) in his new BT99 Midas, Please refer to Alliant Reloading Manual or Website.

    It will smoke a target from 16 yrds
     
  6. extrapper84

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    Started my grandson with BT-99 shooting

    .78 of reclaimed, 16.2 E3, CB 4100-12B wad. Gun Club hulls 6195 psi @1200 fps.

    He is 12 yrs old small frame. Hasn't broke 25 yet but shoots lots 22,23,24.

    Nothing but SMOKE.

    I tried them from the 24, shot 23. Kicked like a 410.

    Hal
     
  7. Jawhawker

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    Red Dot loaded in the 1050-1100 fps range should be fine. If the one ounce is a little much, drop the shot to 7/8 oz.
     
  8. JT 27

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    Though expensive, a very slow powder ie low felt recoil, IMR 7625, 22.5 gr. rem wad, case & primer 1 oz. can replace with Win components and same powder load.
     
  9. Al391brown

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    Green dot 1 ounce load at 1145 fps. Dirty but low recoil! Excellent for a first shot at doubles. Reduce to 7/8 if needed. If all else fails unique will work well. Good luck!
     
  10. HTSmith

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    For 1 ounce loads the powders you have that would be most appropriate are clays and red dot. Hodgdon has clays data that go 1125 fps. These are soft kickers, but break clays just fine. The slower powders give excessive velocity variation (standard deviation).
     
  11. slide action

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    I have used 7/8 as a starter load or upgrade load when youngsters went from 20 ga. to 12 ga. guns. They will be short yard if they shoot handicap at all so I suggest 7/8 oz. of eight and a halfs.With the reduced shot charge the faster burning powders work a little better. Red or Green Dot are my favorite,but clays and promo are good also. You won't need more than 17 grs. and with the faster powders (Clays,Red Dot and Promo) I wouldn't go above 16 grs. Plenty of power to push 7/8 oz. of shot and crushes the birds. We loaded 16 grs. of Red Dot and 7/8 oz. for our daughter when she went from a 20 ga. to a 12 ga. at age 10.
     
  12. School Teacher

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    One thought is to try a factory Federal Paper or Plastic Extra Lite load. This is 1 1/8 oz at 1100 fps in either 7 1/2 or 8 size shot. These are very soft and manageable and can be obtained without reloading several boxes of shells.

    If they work out, Alliant can provide reloading data to duplicate the load.

    In particular, the Extra Lite Ppaper shells are really soft and you get a full 1 1/8 oz of shot.

    Ed ward
     
  13. Chichay

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    16.0gr Clays, CB1100, 1oz #8, Fio 616 or Win 209 primer using AA or STS hull. Clean and soft shooting. I use this load in a BT99 Micro with 30" barrel. Chichay
     
  14. Heeringa

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    For my practice rounds, I use 7/8 ounce of #8 with 15.5 grains of International Clays with the gray ClayBuster 7/8 wad in Gun Club/STS/Premier hulls. Best I've done is 22/25. I only shoot once a week, but I've gotten that several times this year and I've been shooting for less than a year. I can barely feel the kick from this load.
     
  15. oz

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    improved modified is too much for 1 oz loads . use I/C. I have shot 100 in registered shoots with this combo. Clays powder..go to hodgdon.com for loads. oz
     
  16. timb99

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    The slow burn/fast burn powder is a myth.

    Use Clays and one ounce of shot. Put enough powder in it to make it go 1100-1150 fps by the books, using whatever primer and wad you have, and call it good.
     
  17. cunninmp

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    Remington Hull, Win209, Windjammer Wad, 1oz 7 1/2 or 8's, and 18 grains
    of International Clays will give you a soft 2 3/4 dram load. These go out
    at 1140 to 1150 fps. I shoot these at 16 and 21. Very low recoil. I use
    either a IM or LF in my CG. Smokes birds.

    Mike C.