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NEED 27 YD. LOAD USING NITRO 100

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Two Dogs, May 5, 2009.

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  1. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

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    I just bought some nitro 100 powder, does anyone have good results using it from the 27 yd. line? I like to use Fed. gold metal hulls...I used solo 1000 with great results...Thanks....
     
  2. Shooting Coach

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    I have the 2002 manual, which shows loads for your hull/powder combo. What wads and primers?
     
  3. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

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    I like the Fed. primer and the 12S3 wad.
     
  4. tcr1146

    tcr1146 Well-Known Member

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    Two Dogs:

    I would recommend that you contact the powder manufacturer and get their "updated" advice. I vaguely remember, several years ago, that they came out and found that this powder created very high pressures using 1 1/8 oz shot and esp if pushing them to 1200 or beyond fps?! Don't hold me to my memory, but check it out by calling them! Thanks, Tom Rhoads
     
  5. canyonman

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    Jerry B,

    I load Solo 1000 also and really like the softer recoil. Haven't gone as high
    as 21 grains yet and was wondering what the speed of your load is?

    Bill
     
  6. Two Dogs

    Two Dogs Well-Known Member

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    For my handicap load I loaded 21 grs. of solo 1000 in a gold metal, it's been such a long time since I cronoed it, but I think it was like 1260 fps.

    Tonite I tried 19 grs. of nitro 100 in a paper with a 12S3 wad, and 19 grs. in a WW with a wt12 wad.They both broke targets very well, the paper being the softest.
    These loads were not cronoed.
     
  7. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    Where did you find a load for 19 grains of Nitro 100 for the WW hull? I load N100 and can find no data for 7/8 oz to 1 1/8 oz loads above 17.3 grains for that hull.
     
  8. Michael Jobe

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    I can't think of a worse powder for handicap loads than Nitro 100. The current reload data on their website has nothing for Federal hulls. The 1150 fps 1 1/8 oz loads with AA hulls are high pressure, and the 1200 fps loads are over pressure. There's only one 1200 fps load with Rem hulls. IMO, Nitro 100 is too fast for anything heavier than 1 oz loads.

    Handicap powder = Green Dot, WST, International, AA Super Handicap, PB, Solo 1000, etc.

    ~Michael
     
  9. Two Dogs

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    The book I'm looking at is quite old, 1994...It shows a load in a WW at 1255 fps. 19 grs. of n100 with a waa12 wad, win. primer.

    I loaded and shot this load last night,it was very fast and the recoil was about the same as a factory silver, and broke the target well.
     
  10. Michael Jobe

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    According to the current reload data, winchester components, 1 1/8 oz of shot, and 15.4 grains of Nitro 100 produces 11679 psi, 179 psi OVER the max average pressure for a 2 3/4" and 3" 12 ga shells, and 1150 fps. I'm sure your loads with 19 gr. of Nitro were well over pressure.

    ~Michael
     
  11. Andy44

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    I LOVE Nitro 100......but would not even think of pushing 1 1/8oz loads over 1200fps with it!

    AndyH ;-)
     
  12. Barry C. Roach

    Barry C. Roach Well-Known Member

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    Bill, What do you want to shoot that heavy a load for? With your talent you'd do nicely with 1150 to 1190. Better string.
     
  13. winchesterm12

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    I use 18.5 in a GM hull with the 12s3 and 209A it puts you at around 1255 fps @ 10500 psi It is a book load from a 2001 booklet. I also like 17.5 gr in a sts hull with windjammer and a rem 209 same booklet, listed as a 1200 fps load but chrono's at about 1235 fps psi listed is 7700 and is very light on recoil. Careful though the reloading police are watching and will surely saddle me up
     
  14. The Rock

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    Accurate says they are on going with testing of Solo 100 and Nitro 100 well all of their powders with G/M hulls. And this was in 2005 when they omitted G/M from their manual.

    I Emailed them and got a reply that I should use the data listed in the earlier manuals. And their testing would be out with the next issue 2006. It was not and is still not in print in the new manuals.

    winchesterm12 load is correct but 17.5 is a lot lower pressure and you aren't giving up much speed.

    Nitro 100 does have a bit more kick to it than Solo 1000.

    Rock

    jim
     
  15. Michael Jobe

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    Published over pressure loads.... I wouldn't trust a word Accurate says, or any of their older data.

    ~Michael
     
  16. ou.3200

    ou.3200 Well-Known Member

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    Two Dogs, I think that if you check you will find that Nitro 100 was imported from Scotland in the early to mid 90s and was a different powder then. I think it was made by Scot Powder then but is now made by a different manufacturing company. I wouldn't use the old data for the new powder.
     
  17. winchesterm12

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    If you wouldn't trust anything Accurate says about powder they make ,who would you trust? I got the same message from Accurate about using the older data for GM hulls and if they say it it's good enough for me. They wouldn't set themselves up for a law suite by giving unsafe advice in print as they did when they emailed me.
     
  18. ou.3200

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    Ask Accurate if they would recommend 19gr of Nitro 100 in a WW hull, with a WT12 wad.
     
  19. winchesterm12

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    I never claimed any loads in a WW hull with 19 grains to be a good idea, in fact I never listed any loads in a WW. The books from the 90's are from the old manufacture and have loads that are unsafe with the new powder but the company that is now making nitro 100 published the books starting in 2001 for their product. The guy that started the thread asked for some loads for the 27 using nitro 100, why would people even comment on the thread if they didn't have any. There are many "book loads" for 1 1/8oz in the 1200-1250 fps range so whats the problem? Some people like Green dot some like international clays and some people even like fat chicks. Different strokes for different folks. I think this horse is dead!!
     
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