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National Concealed Carry Law

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by Rich's Mom, Oct 13, 2011.

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  1. Rich's Mom

    Rich's Mom TS Member

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    This is NOT the Global Ban on Guns, but 'just' our Federal Govt.. This is taken from the 'National Association for Gun Rights' email.
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    Last week I told you some well-meaning, but in my opinion very misguided pro-gunners are working to pass a bill that could turn into a Trojan Horse for more gun control.

    I was talking about H.R. 822, the so-called “National Reciprocity Act,” which could open the flood gates of gun control.

    I’m calling it the National CCW Registration Act.

    While the idea that all states should recognize a concealed weapons permit is sound public policy, the use of the anti-gun federal bureaucracy to implement it is simply foolish.

    Can I count on you to take action RIGHT NOW? Rep. Lamar Smith is the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee that will hear H.R. 822, the National CCW Registration Act.

    I need you to call House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith and make clear that you want to keep the government’s hands off your permit and that you are opposed to federal intrusion into the concealed weapons permit process.

    Once the federal government is in the business of setting the standards for concealed carry permits, it’s only a matter of time before they start using that power to restrict our rights.

    Now you may hear arguments that this bill doesn’t do that, and maybe that’s true... for now.

    Even worse, once this bill starts moving, anyone can amend the bill with anything... and no legislation can bind a future Congress in any way.

    That doesn’t count what Obamacrats in the Department of Justice might dream up as the “regulations” to carry out the legislative “intent.”

    Gun owners have enough trouble with Republican-run Executive branches implementing the law improperly. Does anyone really think the Obama Administration is going to treat gun owners fairly?

    I know many of you are frustrated that you can carry in some states but not others -- I’m frustrated, too.

    I carry concealed every day, everywhere I go, and have worked to expand the ability of citizens to carry in dozens of states.

    I believe I should be able to carry concealed -- without a permit -- in all 50 states. That’s what “bear arms” means. Believe me, that’s a long-term policy goal for the National Association for Gun Rights.

    But mark my words, H.R. 822, the National CCW Registration Act, will become nothing more than a Trojan Horse for even more federal gun control.

    I understand that many who support this bill sincerely just want their right to carry respected -- but cannot due to the fact that their state or another won’t do the right thing.

    But the devil is truly in the details... and the details are where H.R. 822 gets sticky.

    This bill isn’t just about the right to carry for self defense -- it’s a battle over the role of government and the ability to restrict our Second Amendment rights.

    Once gun owners let the Obamacrats start mandating whether states recognize permit reciprocity, they will want to mandate what it takes to get and keep those permits.

    We’re talking about:
    More onerous standards to acquire a permit, so that only FBI agents can pass muster (look at New York’s permit system);
    Higher fees;
    More training requirements;
    A demonstration of “Need” for a permit;
    More frequent renewal periods;
    Federally-mandated waiting periods;
    A national database of all permit holders, accessible by Attorney General Eric Holder;
    An extensive, federally-created list of Criminal Safezones, where only criminals will carry and where law-abiding gun owners are vulnerable;
    The list of potential problems is endless.
    I need you to call House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith at (202)225-4236 and make clear that you want to keep the government’s hands off your permit and that you oppose federal intrusion into the concealed weapons permit process.

    I haven’t even mentioned that this legislation would shred the Constitutional Carry provisions that are on the books in Arizona, Alaska, Vermont and Wyoming.

    It doesn’t stop with just concealed carry. They’ll co-opt the bill to expand the national Brady Registration Check system to block military veterans with PTSD or individuals with misdemeanor convictions from even OWNING firearms -- much less use them for self defense.

    I don’t believe the intentions of the bill sponsors are intrinsically bad -- they’re just naive and misguided.

    Many statists in Washington will co-opt H.R. 822 as part of their grab for more federal power and less individual liberty.

    Even now, the statists in Congress are trying to adopt a National ID card, complete with biometric data that they’ve forced the states to conform to their mandated drivers license “standards.” The National Association for Gun Rights has been part of a group of liberty-minded organizations which have passed state legislation forbidding cooperation with a National ID card.

    While many in the institutional gun control lobby will tell you this is a step forward for CCW permit holders, make no mistake, the National CCW Registration Act is a misguided attempt to protect our rights. It’s like asking the fox to guard the hen house.

    They will use this bill as the foundation to create a federal database of CCW permit holders. And then they can link it everywhere the Feds have database connections -- state police, doctors and insurance companies under Obamacare, and Medicaid/Medicare.

    I’m sorry, but I refuse to entrust my liberty and privacy to a “trust us, they won’t do that” approach to dealing with Obama, the gun-grabbers or frankly most politicians of either party in Washington.

    I need you to make some noise, right now!

    Here’s what you can do to help
    I need you to call House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith at 202-225-4236 and make clear that you want to keep the government’s hands off your permit and you are opposed to federal intrusion into the concealed weapons permit process.
    Once you’ve called Chairman Smith, please consider chipping in $15 or $20 to help the National Association for Gun Rights continue to fight the anti-gunners in Washington.
    It’s imperative that we stop H.R. 822 -- the National CCW Registration Act -- before it gathers steam and support.

    Liberal Republicans and so-called “conservative” Democrats are looking for an easy “pro-gun” vote to give them cover before the next election.

    A Trojan Horse gun control bill like H.R. 822 is exactly the kind of legislation that will get support on both sides of the aisle in Washington D.C. And remember, the Democrat-controlled Senate has to pass it before it gets to Obama... so this bill will only get worse.

    That’s why you and I have to make noise, now!

    Please call House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith at 202-225-4236 and relay the message that gun owners oppose H.R. 822, the Trojan Horse gun control bill. Make clear that you want to keep the federal government’s hands off the state-run CCW permit system.

    Thank you for joining me in this important fight against the National CCW Registration Act.

    For Freedom,


    Dudley Brown
    Executive Director

    P.S. Please call House Judiciary Committee Chairman Lamar Smith at 202-225-4236 and make clear that you want to keep the government’s hands off your permit. Tell him you oppose federal intrusion into the concealed weapons permit process.

    Once you’ve called Chairman Smith, please consider chipping in $15 or $20 to help the National Association for Gun Rights continue to fight the anti-gunners in Washington.


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  2. Rick Barker

    Rick Barker Well-Known Member

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    While the writer makes some good points, there is a problem with some States not recognizing another States CCW permit.

    If you are legally issued a permit by your home State, you can be in deep trouble passing through a State like Illinois that does not issue permits to it's citizens.

    But why should you? The Consitution states that citizens have a right to travel from, to and through one State to another, without having to check in at a border or carry a passport. This should be no different, especially when using interstate highways.
     
  3. wireguy

    wireguy TS Member

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    According to NRA's website analysis of this legislation it does NONE of the terrible things it's detractors claim. They encourage the reader to read the bill itself and see for themselves.
     
  4. mrskeet410

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    A citizen from State A that has a bona fide CCW from State A should have his CCW recognized by State B or C in the same manner State B or C would recognize his drivers license or same-sex marriage from State A.

    But I read of a group of mayors who are complaining that citizens of their states, who would not be eligible for a CCW in their home state, are obtaining CCWs from alien states and expecting it be honored in their home state. If what the mayors are saying is true, I can see their point.
     
  5. Remstar311

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    I stopped reading it when he said look at NY's permit system.

    In NY the county you live in has the control over whether or not you get a CCW. It is all basically in the county judge's hands to be gun friendly or not.
     
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