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mystery of the 12ga RED WAD

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by hammy11, Jun 5, 2009.

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  1. hammy11

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    Hello: I am trying to get some info on this red wad. It is 12gauge but that's all I know. I have about 2 thousand of them. They were sent in a box and they were used like packaging peanuts to protect the item that I bought. I would like to be able to use them if someone can identify them for me I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Bill Hamilton
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  2. Beretta687EELL

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    Looks like the Claybuster 12C1 replacement wad CB3118-12AR. Link to Claybuster web site above. Bill Malcolm
     
  3. SCOTT MESSENGER

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    It looks like the old Herter's Chalice cup wad. This wad was made by Herter's in Waseca, MN many years ago. I hope this helps.
     
  4. hammy11

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    Thanks Beretta687EELL. I will try to get in touch with someone at CB and see what they know.
     
  5. goatskin

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    What you have are not CB - they sure look like the old Herter's Chalice, like Scott said.

    Look for a round-bottom shot-cup. (That was feature, not a bug.) Sold in a paper bag, made by Outdoorsman International in Beaver Dam? Falls? WI

    They are a 1¼ hunting wad, a knock-off of the Win12R Red-wad and use the same data.

    If they are still soft you're not going to blow anything up using them, but be aware, if they are Herters, they are Perfect, and you may be ruined for life shooting them when you can't get any more.

    Bob
     
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    Goatskin: Thanks a lot for the info. All you guys have been a great help and I am really happy with this site. Everyone seems to have lots of patience and willing to help out us newbies. Thanks again, Bill
     
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    Goatskin and Scott: They do have a round bottom on the inside of the shot cup and they are still soft and feel quite fresh ( pliable ) to me. Bill
     
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    Hello: I am trying to get some info on this red wad. It is 12gauge but that's all I know. I have about 2 thousand of them. They were sent in a box and they were used like packaging peanuts to protect the item that I bought. I would like to be able to use them if someone can identify them for me I would really appreciate it. Thanks, Bill Hamilton
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  9. Beretta687EELL

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    Looks like the Claybuster 12C1 replacement wad CB3118-12AR. Link to Claybuster web site above. Bill Malcolm
     
  10. SCOTT MESSENGER

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    It looks like the old Herter's Chalice cup wad. This wad was made by Herter's in Waseca, MN many years ago. I hope this helps.
     
  11. hammy11

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    Thanks Beretta687EELL. I will try to get in touch with someone at CB and see what they know.
     
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    What you have are not CB - they sure look like the old Herter's Chalice, like Scott said.

    Look for a round-bottom shot-cup. (That was feature, not a bug.) Sold in a paper bag, made by Outdoorsman International in Beaver Dam? Falls? WI

    They are a 1¼ hunting wad, a knock-off of the Win12R Red-wad and use the same data.

    If they are still soft you're not going to blow anything up using them, but be aware, if they are Herters, they are Perfect, and you may be ruined for life shooting them when you can't get any more.

    Bob
     
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    Goatskin: Thanks a lot for the info. All you guys have been a great help and I am really happy with this site. Everyone seems to have lots of patience and willing to help out us newbies. Thanks again, Bill
     
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    Goatskin and Scott: They do have a round bottom on the inside of the shot cup and they are still soft and feel quite fresh ( pliable ) to me. Bill
     
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    Arrrgh ... yep, the 'Vend-a-lee' were the white 1½oz.

    Oops

    But they're still Perfect, of course.

    Bob
     
  16. PerazziBigBore

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    Put them on the pattern board.. Bet you see something interesting..
     
  17. goatskin

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    <i>So it must be Perfect! Then how come I still miss?</i>

    You're right handed, left-eyed and cross-firing?

    You're not using Perfect Powder?

    Your speed is too fast?

    Your speed is too slow?

    Your rounds cost too much?

    Your rounds don't cost enough?

    Chose one or more ... or several.

    Bob
     
  18. shaner

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    yep agreed those look like the herters wads i used for years, i was getting them also from a company i cant remember the name that bought the dies from herters when they closed, they were a black , wad then , so someone was using these as packing peanuts? who if i may ask??
     
  19. Savage99Stan

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    Herter's Chalice. Promoted for skeet plus the "perfect" design kept the shot "forward" for somehow better patterns. Along with the Vandalee and Grand Prix, two of the over-the-top George Leonard Herter's great sellers. I tried the unslit wads also and got such varying patterns that I gave them away. These, which I still have a box or two, worked well in AAs for skeet.

    Anybody remember the Herter's shells, no crimp but with a "spin-off" top wad?

    Or the Herter's Auto 5 clone, or Superposed clone? Or their compound bow? Or their "guide association approved" boats?

    Hey, 2Cluk, wanna share any of your Herter's collection or trivia.
     
  20. shaner

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    so who was using these for packing in shipping?
     
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