1. Attention: We have put together a thread with tips and a tutorial video to help with using the new software. Please take a moment to check out the thread here: Trapshooters.com Tutorial & Help Video.
    Dismiss Notice

My solution to crossfiring

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by joe kuhn, Apr 6, 2011.

Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.
  1. joe kuhn

    joe kuhn Furry Lives Matter TS Supporters

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    7,111
    Location:
    Naperville, IL
    ...is to take away everything the non-dominant eye might use. I've removed the bead and pushed the bbl down. If you don't like electronics, I bet an elevated ghost ring would work as well.

    Some use tape, but I want my off eye to help see the target. Some use bead hiders, but my off eye will use the end of the bbl or the end of the bead hider. So for what it's worth, here's a picture of the animal. Notice there ain't no bead. And notice the bbl is down and out of the way. (There's an 'unfair' advantage in that I can look down to just over the house and get a head start on the target.)

    [​IMG]

    This year's version is below. I call it the 2011 Barakuhna.

    [​IMG]


    [​IMG]
     
  2. Smoke 1

    Smoke 1 Banned User Banned

    Joined:
    Nov 16, 2007
    Messages:
    964
    Dude - with a GISMO like that you need more MANLY wall paper but please ask your wife for permission first.LOL
     
  3. Setterman

    Setterman Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Feb 12, 2007
    Messages:
    11,127
    Joe, I have enjoyed seeing your "out of the box" ideas to improve the functions of a trap gun. My question is this. Do you find yourself slowing down as you try to establish a lead on the target with the Ghost site? You have no barrel/bead reference, so is lead more difficult?
     
  4. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    14,686
    Location:
    NW Wisconsin
    only women can get their trigger arm that high in the air. Real men have bad shoulders
     
  5. warren

    warren Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    948
    Location:
    Fernley, Nevada
    It's in your brain, you gotta fix it there. I'm wearing an eye patch in the evenings that seems to help.

    warren
     
  6. grntitan

    grntitan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Mar 25, 2009
    Messages:
    17,161
    Location:
    IL(The gun friendly Southern Part)
    warren--Please explain further. Are you trying to change your eye dominance?
     
  7. oskerspap12

    oskerspap12 Active Member

    Joined:
    Dec 29, 2009
    Messages:
    1,235
    I agree with MIA..........BOTH my sholders hurt like hell......just sayin'

    D.P.Reynolds
     
  8. Trapboy1957

    Trapboy1957 TS Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    Messages:
    98
    People have tried scopes and other methods before most here were born. They may work for some. How's your doubles scores? Jr
     
  9. Unknown1

    Unknown1 Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Nov 5, 2009
    Messages:
    3,396
    I can't tell what the thing looks like from a head-on photo.

    MK
     
  10. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    14,686
    Location:
    NW Wisconsin
    Joe builds these things. Does he shoot them? Seems not.
     
  11. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jul 17, 2007
    Messages:
    6,258
    I like your creativity Joe and hope this works out for you.

    For alot of of crossfire victims, the ghost ring wouldn't work because we aren't using the sights on the gun anyway. But I'm always interested in new approaches to this problems so please keep us posted with your results.
     
  12. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    9,226
    Location:
    Mesquite, Nevada
    Jack, don't you recall all the site experts telling Joe he'd be lucky to ever break a 25 with such guns and sighting apparatuses? I saved a lot of those posts from several experts in case of deletions or "I didn't say that" came about but it didn't.

    With the Holo-Sight it's the same heads up principle as fighter pilots use projected on the windshield of the plane. The projected "dot" being that close to his "master pointing eye" there's no way his off eye has anything to make reference to? Remember, the barrel is way below the off eye level, all both eyes see is a target! It's impossible to crossfire with that set-up. IE, his solution to prevent crossfiring!

    BTW, Joe shot a 99 with his experimental outfit.

    Hap
     
  13. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    14,686
    Location:
    NW Wisconsin
    good to know Hap. See your PM
     
  14. twostraight

    twostraight Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    320
    If its in your brain, why do you wear a eye patch? Wouldn't a brain patch work better?
     
  15. joe kuhn

    joe kuhn Furry Lives Matter TS Supporters

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    7,111
    Location:
    Naperville, IL
    I wouldn't wish the problem of crossfiring on anybody. First noticed it when I missed 3 left handers from station 1, in a row. A new eyeglass prescription put it off for a year, but it's slowly creeping back. This year I decided to go from a standard sight plane (rib) back to this.
    [​IMG]

    [​IMG]


    See my thread on the 2011 Barrakuhna for more discussion.
     
  16. Mark425

    Mark425 TS Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    841
    Serious question....why not just close one eye?
     
  17. miketmx

    miketmx Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 29, 1998
    Messages:
    2,962
    I think Joe has some great ideas. It has been a long winter for me and I just started shooting again and I think the crossfire is back with a vengeance. For the last 8 years or so I have used the small 2 mm diameter Uni-Dot hooded front bead which I can only see with my right eye. I don't know if I have ever made that "Z" type move with the gun barrel that Phil Kiner talked about but I probably have. With the Uni-Dot bead, when my left eye takes over I am only conscious of the target but not the gun at all because I can't see the bead with my left eye. It is a very strange phenomena when I miss those left angle targets and have no clue at all why ??
     
  18. Rastoff

    Rastoff Active Member

    Joined:
    Apr 25, 2009
    Messages:
    1,319
    That's not the same gun from the first pic.
     
  19. Trapboy1957

    Trapboy1957 TS Member

    Joined:
    Dec 8, 2008
    Messages:
    98
    You should be a "shoe in or ringer" for the Grand American Handicap if you ever register enough targets and can take the pressure. Jr
     
  20. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

    Joined:
    Apr 28, 2006
    Messages:
    14,686
    Location:
    NW Wisconsin
    Mike. I make that Kiner "Z" type move so often that my brain compensates and I HIT the target!

    Actually, my gun starts out toward the target now, and usually the release lets go before the "Z" kicks the gun out and then tries to kick it back in defining the "Z" shape move.

    Really.
     
Thread Status:
Not open for further replies.