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Discussion in 'Off Topic Threads' started by Dave Berlet, Dec 24, 2012.

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  1. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet Active Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    I want everyone to know that I am very saddened by the recent school tragedy and I hope that something like this never happens again, but it most surely will unless something is done to protect our most important resource our children.

    First of all where do disfunctional loons such as this person attack? In the vast majority of these tragedys the attacker goes to a place where there will be only victims unable to defend themselves. Our school students should be privileged to armed security. Our president, governors, mayors of many cities, sports figures, hollywood stars and celebrities to only name a few have armed body gurds, so why not armed protection for our most important resource our children?

    The thousands of gun laws on the books only effect the law abiding people and they do not deter the criminal who is only looking for victims, and hopes the intended victim is not armed and able to take the profit out of their endeavor. No gun law on the books or now purposed could have saved these children from this evil act. Only protection could have helped and armed security seems to be a common sense soultion.

    The law abiding people across the country who have taken the time, spent the funds, passed the conceled carry course, passed the finger printing and back ground checks are no threat to anyone except to someone who threatens them with bodily harm or death. They obey the laws and they will do nothing that would cause them to have their conceled carry permit revoked.

    Also assualt weapons are illegal to own. The AR 15 is a semi automatic rifle, not a fully automatic assualt weapon. A fully automatic weapon can fire multiple rounds with one trigger pull and they are banned for civilian use. A semi automatic weapon only fires one round for one trigger pull. Our anti gun president, his coronies and most of the news media people try to conceal this distinct difference in weapons.

    In a perfect world we would not have these problems, but evil does exist in our world and it needs to be effectively dealt with . Please remember when you take God and prayer out of our society you are inviting trouble in.

    God bless America and thank you for reading this letter. Dave Berlet
  2. Straight50

    Straight50 Member

    Sep 18, 2011
    Good post Dave and I agree completely. I read today that the Presidents girls have 11 people assigned to their security. I understand this, and I wish all children could have this many. I think that we as parents and grandparents must continue to insist that our children be protected when they are out of our care.
    May God Bless us all.
  3. Lawman214

    Lawman214 TS Member

    Dec 20, 2011
    As Wayne Lapierre said recently...the only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun, is a good guy with a gun. Like it or not, true dat.
  4. handlepuller

    handlepuller Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    St. Augusta, MN
    Arm our schools now!
  5. JACK

    JACK Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

    Apr 28, 2006
    NW Wisconsin
    Handlepuller has it exactly correct. Each and every town will pay more taxes to keep their kids safe at school. a great percentage of schools have the armed protection already. Some idiot lawmaker said it would cost 25 bill to put armed guards in schools. Obama is looking for ways to hire more government workers and with the returning guardsmen and other service members, here is his perfect chance. And be a hero to boot. This specific problem of an armed intruder into a community school is easily fixed. But goofy guys are in the middle of the population. If one wants to kill kids with a gun, he'll find a way.
  6. ziegmund

    ziegmund Active Member

    Nov 9, 2011
    Everytime a horrendus travesty happens such as Newton it always brings me back to the following excerpt a fellow veteran sent to me. Although I have lost most of my teeth it is always hard not to run towards the sound of trouble.

    You may be too young to appreciate fully the sacrifices of generations of
    servicemen and servicewomen on whose shoulders you
    and your fellow students stand. I forgive you for the untutored ways of
    youth and your naiveté. It may be that you are, simply, a sheep. There's no
    dishonor in being a sheep as long as you know and accept what you are.

    William J. Bennett, in a lecture to the United States Naval Academy
    November 24, 1997 said: "Most of the people in our society are sheep. They
    are kind, gentle, productive creatures who can only hurt one another by
    accident. We may well be in the most violent times in history, but violence
    is still remarkably rare. They are sheep.

    Then there are the wolves and the wolves feed on the sheep without mercy.
    Do you believe there are wolves out there who will feed on the flock
    without mercy? You better believe it. There are evil men in this world and
    they are capable of evil deeds. The moment you forget that or pretend it is
    not so, you become a sheep. There is no safety in denial.

    Then there are sheepdogs. I'm a sheepdog. I live to protect the flock and
    confront the wolf. If you have no capacity for violence then you are a
    healthy productive citizen, a sheep. If you have a capacity for violence
    and no empathy for your fellow citizens, then you have defined an
    aggressive sociopath, a wolf. But what if you have a capacity for violence,
    and a deep love for your fellow citizens? What do you have then? A
    sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the uncharted path. Someone
    who can walk into the heart of darkness, into the universal human phobia,
    and walk out unscathed.

    We know that the sheep live in denial; that is what makes them sheep. They
    do not want to believe that there is evil in the world. They can accept the
    fact that fires can happen, which is why they want fire extinguishers, fire
    sprinklers, fire alarms and fire exits throughout their kids schools. But
    many of them are outraged at the idea of putting an armed police officer in
    their kid's school. Our children are thousands of times more likely to be
    killed or seriously injured by school violence than fire, but the sheep's
    only response to the possibility of violence is denial. The idea of someone
    coming to kill or harm their child is just too hard, and so they chose the
    path of denial.

    The sheep generally do not like the sheepdog. He looks a lot like the wolf.
    He has fangs and the capacity for violence. The difference, though, is that
    the sheepdog must not, can not and will not ever harm the sheep. Any sheep
    dog who intentionally harms the lowliest little lamb will be punished and

    The world can not work any other way, at least not in a representative
    democracy or a republic such as ours. Still, the sheepdog disturbs the
    sheep. He is a constant reminder that there are wolves in the land. They
    would prefer that he didn't tell them where to go, or give them traffic
    tickets, or stand at the ready in our airports, in camouflage fatigues,
    holding an M-16. The sheep would much rather have the sheepdog cash in his
    fangs, spray paint himself white, and go, Baa. "

    Until the wolf shows up; then the entire flock tries desperately to hide
    behind one lonely sheepdog. The students, the victims, at Columbine High
    School were big, tough high school students, and under ordinary
    circumstances they would not have had the time of day for a police officer.
    They were not bad kids; they just had nothing to say to a cop. When the
    school was under attack, however, and SWAT teams were clearing the rooms
    and hallways, the officers had to physically peel those clinging, sobbing
    kids off of them. This is how the little lambs feel about their sheepdog
    when the wolf is at the door.

    Look at what happened after September 11, 2001 when the wolf pounded hard
    on the door. Remember how America , more than ever before, felt differently
    about their law enforcement officers and military personnel? Understand
    that there is nothing morally superior about being a sheepdog; it is just
    what you choose to be. Also understand that a sheepdog is a funny critter:
    He is always sniffing around out on the perimeter, checking the breeze,
    barking at things that go bump in the night, and yearning for a righteous

    That is, the young sheepdogs yearn for a righteous battle. The old
    sheepdogs are a little older and wiser, but they move to the sound of the
    guns when needed, right along with the young ones.

    Here is how the sheep and the sheepdog think differently. The sheep pretend
    the wolf will never come, but the sheepdog lives for that day. After the
    attacks on September 11, 2001, most of the sheep, that is, most citizens in
    America said, Thank God I wasn't on one of those planes. The sheepdogs, the
    warriors, said, Dear God, I wish I could have been on one of those planes.
    Maybe I could have made a difference. You want to be able to make a
    difference. There is nothing morally superior about the sheepdog, the
    warrior, but he does have one real advantage. Only one. And that is that he
    is able to survive and thrive in an environment that destroys 98 percent of
    the population.

    There was research conducted a few years ago with individuals convicted of
    violent crimes. These cons were in prison for serious, predatory crimes of
    violence: assaults, murders and killing law enforcement officers. The vast
    majority said that they specifically targeted victims by body language:
    slumped walk, passive behavior and lack of awareness. They chose their
    victims like big cats do in Africa , when they select one out of the herd
    that is least able to protect itself.

    Some people may be destined to be sheep and others might be genetically
    primed to be wolves or sheepdogs. But I believe that most people can choose
    which one they want to be, and I'm proud to say that more and more
    Americans are choosing to become sheepdogs.

    Seven months after the attack on September 11, 2001, Todd Beamer was
    honored in his hometown of Cranbury , New Jersey . Todd, as you recall, was
    the man on Flight 93 over Pennsylvania who called on his cell phone to
    alert an operator from United Airlines about the hijacking. When they
    learned of the other three passenger planes that had been used as weapons,
    Todd and the other passengers confronted the terrorist hijackers. In one
    hour, a transformation occurred among the passengers, athletes, business
    people and parents from sheep to sheepdogs and together they fought the
    wolves, ultimately saving an unknown number of lives on the ground.

    "There is no safety for honest men except by believing all possible evil of
    evil men."... Edmund Burke.
    "Only the dead have seen the end of war."... Plato

    Here is the point I like to emphasize, especially to the thousands of
    police officers and soldiers I speak to each year. In nature the sheep,
    real sheep, are born as sheep. Sheepdogs are born that way, and so are
    wolves. They didn't have a choice.

    But you are not a critter. As a human being, you can be whatever you want
    to be. It is a conscious, moral decision. If you want to be a sheep, then
    you can be a sheep and that is okay, but you must understand the price you
    pay. When the wolf comes, you and your loved ones are going to die if there
    is not a sheepdog there to protect you. If you want to be a wolf, you can
    be one, but the sheepdogs are going to hunt you down and you will never
    have rest, safety, trust or love.

    But if you want to be a sheepdog and walk the warrior's path, then you must
    make a conscious and moral decision every day to dedicate, equip and
    prepare yourself to thrive in that toxic, corrosive moment when the wolf
    comes knocking at the door.

    This business of being a sheep or a sheep dog is not a yes-no dichotomy. It
    is not an all-or-nothing, either-or choice. It is a matter of degrees, a
    continuum. On one end is an abject, head-in-the-sand-sheep and on the other
    end is the ultimate warrior. Few people exist completely on one end or the
    other. Most of us live somewhere in between.

    Since 9-11 almost everyone in America took a step up that continuum, away
    from denial. The sheep took a few steps toward accepting and appreciating
    their warriors and the warriors started taking their job more seriously.
    It's ok to be a sheep, but do not kick the sheep dog.

    Indeed, the sheep dog may just run a little harder, strive to protect a
    little better and be fully prepared to pay an ultimate price in battle and
    spirit with the sheep moving from baa to thanks.

    We do not call for gifts or freedoms beyond our lot. We just need a small
    pat on the head, a smile and a thank you to fill the emotional tank which
    is drained protecting the sheep. And when our number is called by The
    Almighty, and day retreats into night, a small prayer before the heavens
    just may be in order to say thanks for letting you continue to be a sheep.
    And be grateful for the thousands, millions of American sheepdogs who
    permit you the freedom to express even bad ideas.
  7. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

    Jan 29, 1998
    I agree wholeheartedly with you Dave Berlet, Obama can spend BILLIONS on bankrupt companies and not a few million on school police protection, Use Billions of American Dollars on George Soros Brazillian Oil that is going to Japan.

    Gary Bryant


    Apr 10, 2011
    Great post.

    FYI, fully automatic weapons are not illegal to own.

    Steve Nunley

    Albuquerque, NM
  9. timberfaller

    timberfaller Well-Known Member

    Feb 24, 2007
    Eastern Washington
    Liberals are all talk, they use "the children" as pawns in their political war against what is right and good.

    And the Sheep fall for it "hook, line and sinker"

    Its the liberal who gave us "gun control", took away the "funding"(2 years ago) most schools use to add security measures, and its their "brain child" of "Gun Free Zone" and ZERO Tolerance(in education no less)!!
  10. Dave Berlet

    Dave Berlet Active Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Steve you are technically correct. Any individual wanting to own a fully automatic weapon must obtain a federal permit. There is a permit fee, and there is a transfer fee of I believe two hundred dollars each time a fully automatic weapon is transfered. Also I believe to obtain the ownership permit you must apply through your local sheriff's department.

  11. Scott Johnson

    Scott Johnson Well-Known Member

    Jun 12, 2012
    Conrad, Mondamtana
    Excellant post, thanks for sharing, William Bennett hit it squarely between the eyes. Scott
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