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mx2000rs and mx10rs whats the difference

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by theclaysmoker, Feb 11, 2009.

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  1. theclaysmoker

    theclaysmoker TS Member

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    mx2000rs and mx10rs whats the difference between thease guns in a combo. Does the RS stand for Ray Stafford? Does Perazzi make them for him or did he design it for Perazzi?
     
  2. WoodsonEnt

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    The difference between a MX10RS and 2000RS is the receiver. The MX2000RS has some scroll work and says MX2000 in gold. The MX10RS receiver is plain.

    Matt
     
  3. Don Rackley

    Don Rackley Well-Known Member Supporting Vendor

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    In addition to the cosmetic differences defined above, the ribs on a MX10RS are about 5 or 6mm higher than on a MX2000RS.
     
  4. zzt

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    The difference is as Matt said. The MX-10 combo does have ribs that are higher than either the MX-10RS and MX-2000RS.
     
  5. ivanhoe

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    I am not exactly sure of all the differences in the models mentioned but maybe you can see for yourself.



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  6. ivanhoe

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    These are photos of the same guns in combo's once again MX2000RS 0n top and MX10RS 0n bottom the second pair of photos are the receivers(the lettering and ingraving on the 2000 is not real good as I am pushing the limit on the enlargements) Again MX 2000 on top.

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  7. Avaldes

    Avaldes Well-Known Member

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    Actually I believe the RS rib is the same on both the 10RS and the 2000RS. The rib on my 2000RS is the same is the rib on my friends 10Rs. The pictures above illustrate an MX-10RS and a regular MX-2000.

    -Aaron
     
  8. RickN

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    Bob, it seems like your 2000 & 2000 combo have different ribs?
     
  9. gyrine

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    I don't know about you, but now I am totally confused. Is there a difference in rib hight between the mx10, if there is such a thing, and the mx10rs? gyrine
     
  10. zzt

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    Yes, gyrine, there is. The RS desination stands for Ray Stafford and applies only to unsingles and unsingle combos with an RS designation. The MX-10RS and the MX-2000RS are identical guns except for the engraving on the receiver and the guality of the bluing on the barrels.

    The MX-10 is a top single combo. Both barrels of an MX-10 combo have higher ribs than their RS brethren.
     
  11. ivanhoe

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    "Actually I believe the RS rib is the same on both the 10RS and the 2000RS. The rib on my 2000RS is the same is the rib on my friends 10Rs. The pictures above illustrate an MX-10RS and a regular MX-2000."

    Just so there is no mistake and no further second guessing what your eyes see. The pictures I have posted were taken directly from the Perazzi web sight I have provided a link to the combo sets if you wish to investigate further you can navigate from there.

    There is no MX2000RS single listed on the website.

    Combos there is no regular MX2000 listed either. There is MX2000/10 and MX2000/8 they are both top singles. The only Combo that is listed that is an bottom single and that is the MX2000RS and that is the picture of it.

    The pictures of the receivers that I posted are from the pictures I down loaded from the Perazzi web site I resized them and posted them here because WoodsonEnt made some distinction about the differences in the receiver.

    Now you need to understand that what I have posted is directly from the 2008 Perazzi catalog. The MX2000 model has been around since the year 2000 there are bound to be some differences from year to year

    The next time you think you have the right answers when the proof is right in front of you. I would suggest you make sure you do the research before you make statements that I am misrepresenting what is there for all to see.

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  12. ivanhoe

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    "The MX-10RS and the MX-2000RS are identical guns except for the engraving on the receiver and the quality of the bluing on the barrels."

    I would say from the pictures that there is a difference in the ribs as well as the receivers. Again those pictures come right out of the Perazzi on line catalog. I posted the link to the Combos in my last post I would suggest you check it out.

    You know what this will be the last time I try to help some one that needs help on this site. Instead I will leave it to all you experts to steer them in the right direction. You guy act like I just climbed on the Toilet and came out with these pictures the whole bunch of you experts can go fry ice as far as I am concerned.

    Bob Lawless
     
  13. RickN

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    These two recievers both appear to be MX 2000's but the ribs are not the same.

    Edit; At least the middle hangers are different and the first picket is. They still might be exactly the same height.
     
  14. zzt

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    Ivanhoe, take a look at the Italian web site at the link above. You will clearly see there are MX2000/10 and MX10 combos, and MX2000RS and MX10RS combos.

    Anything with the RS designation is an unsingle combo. Without the RS it is a top single combo. Top single combos have higher ribs than the unsingle combos. The 2000 designation adds engraving and gold lettering (on blued models only), where the 10 is a plain, scalloped receiver.

    RickN, you are correct. The top gun is an MX2000. It is available as an unsingle only and does not have a matching rib height O/U barrel set available for it. It has a 5-notch rib.

    The gun on the bottom is an MX2000RS combo. As you note, the rib is higher. It is a 4-notch rib.
     
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    "The MX-10RS and the MX-2000RS are identical guns except for the engraving on the receiver and the quality of the bluing on the barrels."

    Are you going to tell me that the space between the barrel and the rib on both of the pictures of the combos that I posted is the same???????????

    "Ivanhoe, take a look at the Italian web site at the link above. You will clearly see there are MX2000/10 and MX10 combos, and MX2000RS and MX10RS combos."

    If you had bothered to read what I posted you might have read. "The pictures I have posted were taken directly from the Perazzi web sight I have provided a link to the combo sets if you wish to investigate further you can navigate from there" Do you know what navigate means I never said that the picture that appears when you go to the link was an RS anything maybe if I lead you by the hand you might understand better!!!!!

    "The top gun is an MX2000. It is available as an unsingle only"

    Wow where have I seen that before? Maybe this vaguely resembles it

    "There is no MX2000RS single listed on the website."



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    Can you tell me which picture came from the link you provided and the one I provided after navigation?

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  16. gyrine

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    Sorting through the good information and the misinformation on this thread, I have concluded that the only high rib top single from Perazzi is the TMX and the new TM9X. Am I correct in this assumption? gyrine
     
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    gyrine. You need my opinion... Mostly Perazzi considers any non combo single a "SBT" gun. So, that would seem to say that a MX10 Top single would meet your criteria.
     
  18. zzt

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    Ivanhoe, the pictures are wrong for crying out loud. Take a look at the MX2000/10 and MX10 combos. Pay particular attention the the rib on the unsingle. Notice it's height. That is the correct picture for the non-RS O/U and the matching rib height top single.

    Now go and look at the MX2000RS combo. Notice the rib on the O/U. It is lower than the rib on the O/U from the top single combo. Rib height of the unsingle matches. Now look at the picture for the MX10RS. Notice the rib height is the same as for the MX2000RS. Now notice the rib height for the unsingle. It doesn't match. That's because the wrong picture is posted. Either the unsingle picture is wrong, or the O/U picture is wrong. Perazzi does_not_sell combos with mismatched rib heights.
     
  19. ivanhoe

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    "Ivanhoe, the pictures are wrong for crying out loud. Take a look at the MX2000/10 and MX10 combos. Pay particular attention the the rib on the unsingle. Notice it's height. That is the correct picture for the non-RS O/U and the matching rib height top single.

    Read very slowly so you will have time to understand.

    "Ivanhoe, the pictures are wrong for crying out loud."

    I'm sorry you feel that this statement is correct in this entire thread there are a total of 12 pictures posted there are no top single barrels pictures posted. The MX2000/10 and MX10 combos are not unsingles so if you have any problems with wrong pictures they don't fit this statement.

    The one you are asking me to take a look at are Perazzi's pictures if feel they are wrong you tell them about it not me.

    "Now notice the rib height for the unsingle. It doesn't match. That's because the wrong picture is posted."

    You say the wrong picture is posted. I want to know wrong in what way?

    "I am not exactly sure of all the differences in the models mentioned but maybe you can see for yourself."


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    "Top is MX2000 bottom is the MX10rs"

    I made no claim that there was a picture of a MX2000RS you assumed that is what I said because you don't read what is in front of you.

    What I find really interesting is in the post just before I posted the first pictures you said.

    "The difference is as Matt said. The MX-10 combo does have ribs that are higher than either the MX-10RS and MX-2000RS."

    In this post you are saying that the rib on the MX10 combo is higher than the rib on the MX10RS and MX2000RS


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    This is an MX10 combo and you think the rib is higher

    It seem to me the only problem with these pictures is you.

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  20. zzt

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    Ivanhoe, are any of your brain cells working?
     
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