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  1. bigbore613

    bigbore613 Banned User Banned TS Supporters

    Jan 29, 1998
    Read this,Jeff
    very interesting reading,,,, something keeps surfacing on this subject! You say a campaign scare tactic....

    Sent to me by a fellow CAL pilot. I sent this off to one of the guys I used to fly with on the Royal 777, (who is a Muslim) to see what his take on it is. I'll let you know. His wife is a white gal from Alabama who converted to Islam for their marriage (so that part is correct).


    The Apostate

    Lt. Col. Michael Burkert, Ret.

    Prior to Barack Hussein Obama's ascension to the lofty position as

    head of the democrat party and presumed nominee for president, the

    issue of his true religious faith and loyalty has been in question.

    Personally, I could care less as to what Barack Hussein Obama is,

    was or is not. However, the issue of honesty is always something

    one looks for in a presidential candidate, unless of course, the

    candidate is a Liberal-Socialist Democrat.

    When such a person emerges in the democrat party, he or she is

    given a pass by the partisan media. Veracity and character are

    simply non-issues in either the democrat party, or the mainstream

    media. The unregulated, partisan media, solidly in the tank for

    Obama could care less as to his honesty or his loyalty to the

    nation for that matter. Our mainstream media luminaries are

    dishonest, disloyal and disingenuous. They support Liberal-

    Socialists of the same character, or lack of it.

    If Barack Hussein Obama is to be elected president, almost

    immediately there will be massive eruptions of protest, no doubt

    violent protest in the Muslim world. Why you ask, would Muslims

    object to Obama as president? After all, isn't he one of them? In

    short, yes and no. While Obama was a Muslim, he publicly denies any

    affiliation at any time, with the Muslim faith. So what is the

    problem, you ask?

    In 1995, I shipped off to the Middle East on orders. It was an

    accompanied tour and my family was afforded the dubious opportunity

    to live in the Muslim world for several years. My stepson was 12

    years old at the time. Since I was a registered Christian with the

    Ministry of Justice, by law, my stepson was registered as a

    Christian. Had I been a registered Muslim, my stepson would have

    been registered as a Muslim!

    The point here is that the religion of the foreign mother is of no

    consequence in the Muslim world. The status of my wife's religion

    was never asked. It was assumed, I'm sure, her religion was the

    same as mine. That's the way it is in the Muslim world. Women are

    not afforded much in the way of status in the Muslim world, and

    Obama's mother was no exception.

    Islamic law is consistent throughout the Muslim world. Children of

    a Muslim father, even secular Muslims, those who rarely attend

    mosque services, rarely keep the Ramadan fast, and the Eid

    holidays, etc., are automatically Muslims. The child of a Muslim

    father, is a Muslim. There is no wiggle room here. Koranic law is

    the law!

    Barack Hussein Obama lived in Indonesia as a child. His mother, no

    doubt, was a convert to Islam, as a Muslim will not marry a non-

    Muslim, at least not publicly or officially. Obama's mother was

    married twice to Muslim men. Young Barack Hussein would not have

    lasted long in a Madrasa, if he weren't a Muslim. Peer pressure

    alone would have been intolerable, yet young Obama attended the

    Madrasa for several years. Make no mistake about it; he attended AS

    A MUSLIM. There would have simply been no other way.

    During Obama's childhood in Indonesia, the world's largest Muslim

    country, he attended an Islamic school, we know as a Madrasa. Young

    Barack Hussein would have studied the Koran, the Haddith and the

    Sunna. He would have received indoctrination in the Muslim faith,

    just like the other boys his age and at his level of schooling.

    Young Barack Hussein would have participated in the five daily

    prayers, either in a prayer room at his Madrasa, or at a local mosque.

    Obama has attempted to mask his early religious training and

    affiliation, but anyone who knows anything about the Muslim

    religion easily sees through the charade. So what, you say. Why

    should we care about all of this? The reason is simple. In the

    Muslim world, Barack Hussein Obama is an APOSTATE. An apostate is a

    person who has turned his back on Islam. In short, you can't quit

    the Islamic faith. It is simply not allowed in Islam!

    Of course there are many men and women who do just that. They

    convert to other faiths for a variety of reasons and for the most

    part, do so with impunity. However, each and every man or woman

    who quits Islam and professes belief in another faith, such as

    Christianity, Judaism or whatever is subject to being killed, in the

    name of Allah! The Koran demands that an apostate be killed.

    Is it of any consequence, you continue to ask, that Obama was once

    a Muslim, but is now a Christian? Obama is an apostate and it's a

    very serious issue with 1.4 billion Muslims around the world.

    Experts on Islam generally agree that someone who is born a Muslim

    (in effect, someone who had a Muslim father), who later renounces

    Islam, is considered an apostate, and a vile enemy of Islam. Again,

    it's Islamic law almost universally.

    Should Obama become U.S. commander in chief, there is a strong

    likelihood that Al-Qaida's media arm, As-Sahab, will exploit

    Obama's background to argue that an "apostate" is leading the

    Global War on Islam and is attacking and killing fellow Muslims.

    The suggestion that Obama is an "apostate" leading "Crusader

    Forces" will be screamed across the Islamic world and used to

    galvanize sympathetic Muslims into action. The apostate tag will be

    a powerful propaganda weapon that Al-Qaida will use to marginalize

    America's Middle East allies, causing enormous difficulties in

    maintaining alliances with moderate Muslim countries in efforts to

    neutralize Al-Qaida and other radical Muslim elements.

    There is no doubt that if Obama is elected President of the United

    States, he will be renounced by many as an apostate. Somewhere,

    some Imam, Mullah or Ayatollah will issue a Fatwa condemning Barack

    Hussein Obama, and essentially in so doing, will issue a death

    warrant for his murder. Anyone remember Salman Rushdie? All he did

    was write a book that the Ayatollah Khomeini in Iran thought had

    "insulted Islam." Rushdie has been in hiding for years! The Fatwa

    issued against him cannot be rescinded by anyone other than he who

    issued it. Since Khomeini is thankfully under the sod, the Fatwa is

    still valid. Anyone who successfully murders Salman Rushdie is

    guaranteed paradise and a good place in paradise!

    Can a Fatwa be issued against a President Obama? You betcha! As if

    that isn't bad enough, IF a Fatwa is issued against Obama, no

    Middle East leader interested in his own skin will dare sit down

    and speak with him. Not even the Iranian nutjob Mahmoud Ahmadinejad

    is that stupid! It may come to pass that Obama will have no

    alternative but to run off to Caracas to see his soulmate Hugo

    Chavez, or scurry down to Havana to pay homage to the Castro

    brothers, and kneel at the altar of Che Guevara.

    An Obama presidency will be problematic for many reasons, but on

    the foreign policy side, not even old Joe Biden will be able to

    save Obama's bacon in the Muslim world. If the American people are

    so taken with Obama's promise of change, they will be sadly

    disappointed with Obama and his ineptness.

    Obama is not qualified to serve as president. Even HE knows the

    problems he will face as an apostate in the Muslim world. So, as

    president, Obama will have only one choice to avoid the

    difficulties I've articulated above. In order to avoid the tag of

    apostate, the probability of immediately being ostracized and

    shunned in the Muslim world; and to avoid a death threat in the

    form of a Fatwa, Obama will be forced to declare himself a Muslim.

    While it may seem unlikely that Obama will fess-up to his Muslim

    faith, don't be surprised if shortly following his inauguration, in

    January 09, he does just that!
  2. Ahab

    Ahab Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    I would say that you hit the nail on the head!
  3. W.P.T.

    W.P.T. TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Interesting read to say the least, I wonder why something of this nature has not been made public so the American people would be aware of who and what they are dealing with ... This should be on the front page of every newspaper from border to border and coast to coast ... I don't care if Obama is Black, Muslim, Black Muslim, or a Black Panther I will not be voing for him, thats for sure ... McCain/Palin 2008, change we really need in and for our future ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
  4. markdenis

    markdenis TS Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    The advertising dollar trumps all!
  5. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Green Bay Wisconsin
    He should be ostracized now. Enough Muslims know the story. He has already stated that he is a Christian. (as if).

    The promise of a succesful Fatwah against him sounds attractive.

    So where is all that foreign money comeing from?

  6. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    Obama is anti-gun. That's all I need to know.
  7. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Northeastern MD @ the top o the Bay
    As a form of protest lets all boycott 7-11 and Dunkin donuts
  8. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

    Jan 29, 1998
    Deplorable Bitter Clinger in Liberal La La Land
    I wonder why the women's lib crowd (ie NOW) has not become alarmed by the prospect of a possible muslim in the White House, given how muslims traditionally relegate women to a subservient role at best, and near slave role at worst.
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