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Model 12 OPINIONS ON VALUE PICS

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by WarEagle2017, Aug 22, 2008.

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  1. WarEagle2017

    WarEagle2017 Active Member

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    Here are some pics of a Model 12 that I now hav, 30" Full choke ( 35 constriction ) Barrel, With Simmons Rib,Pretty Nice Wood, 14 1/4 LOP Trigger is selective for either Pull or Release ( controled by the safety button ) My Question is """WHAT IS IT WORTH """ It was made in 1949 <a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Madel129.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model12.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model122.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model123.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model124.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model125.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model126.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model127.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model128.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model129.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view¤t=Model12jpg1.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a>
     
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    <a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view&current=12rib.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view&current=r7.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG][​IMG]</a>t.com/albums/n37/drhuner/r7.jpg" border="0" alt="Photobucket"></a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view&current=r4.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a>
     
  3. spritc

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    Looks like it's in really nice shape. I would venture to say $850-$1,000. I passed one up today at a gun show for $850, but w/ pull only trigger.

    Steve
     
  4. gunut

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    I agree...Nice looking gun for a put together.....
     
  5. Hinkton

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    If it,s not a Y model, i would not sell it for less then 1,500 dollors Hank
     
  6. WarEagle2017

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    Thanks Hinkton and no it's not a Y Model it was made in 1949
     
  7. Jawhawker

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    MIA, I agree!
     
  8. omahasportingsupply

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    Love those Model 12s.
     
  9. WarEagle2017

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    well guys I appreciate all of your opinions, I admit I have little or no knowledge about Model 12's, except that they have a hell of a good reputation for being a damm good ( if not the best pumps ever made ) but I would like to learn more about them, like for instance what is the BIG differance between a Model 12 Trap Version and a Model 12 Field version ( does the trap grade have Trap stamped on the reciever ??? ) And again if you take a field gun reciever and put Trap Wood on it why would it NOT be a Trap Gun ????? Now to get silly,,, If I took a Trap Gun and I put Field Grade wood on it would that make it ( Now I am speaking in reguard to the Metal Reciever Barrel etc.) worth less. ???????????/ Plus a Simmons 3 pin Rib seems like a good thing to me, is the original Model 12 Rib Better ???? Please educate me. Maybe I,ll just make a Lamp out of it. LOL
     
  10. spritc

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    A build-up model 12 will almost always be less valuable than the real thing, unless a pigeon grade is used for the build up and at that point who cares. Original ribs add 50%-60% to the value of model 12, pre-war guns add another 10% to the value. So if you had an original trap grade (pre-64)in 98% condition
    with a milled rib, it would be worth as much as $2,000, if it was a pre-war gun it would be worth $2,200. A build-up gun in the same condition would be worth $850 - $1,000 unless they were like the two that recently sold for $2,500 on T.S. with highly custom wood. All of this is very subjective because the beauty and value are always in the eye of the beholder and differ from one region to the next. I grew-up with model 12s and they are more valuable to me than most others who grew-up with 870s.

    Steve
     
  11. Jawhawker

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    kolardude, where are you coming up with the above prices?
     
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    Take a look at current prices in central PA.

    http://pcfirearms.com/model12_42.html
     
  13. WarEagle2017

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    Thanks Steve I am starting to see the Light and pheasantmaster i think steve explained where he got His prices,,,," The Eye of the "beholder" and what a guy that appreciates model 12's thinks of them... Thanks
     
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    what about this one <a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view&current=this1.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view&current=this2.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a><a href="http://s108.photobucket.com/albums/n37/drhuner/?action=view&current=this3.jpg" target="_blank">[​IMG]</a>
     
  15. spritc

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    jcl, you are correct about the ribs. If the proof mark is beside the rib then its is an original rib. If the proof mark is under the rib or cannot be seen then the rib has been added. Pheasantmaster, I use the Blue Book as my reference, but the prices quoted are what similar guns are worth to me and others in Indiana.

    Steve
     
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    According to Simmons, the only ribs that they put on for Winchester was on some Model 42s. I had deard that story about them doing ribs for Winchester and that is what they told me. I think that all except the solid rib and the milled rib were Simmons designs that were licensed to Winchester but they did not put them on. I think the only way you can tell is the ribs by Simmons have their name on the side. I think it is possible to have a gun with the proof mark under the rib that was sent back to Winchester to have a rib put on after it was bought,but if Simmons put it on it will have their name on the side of the rib.
     
  18. Jawhawker

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    kolardude, not be a smarta$# but you and your buddies need to make a run to the west when desiring these. You will be surprised...
     
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    Pheasantmaster, what do they sell for out west? We are talking trap models and not field models, right?

    Steve
     
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    I have a Winchester proofmark stamp. If I put the mark on a a 1100 Remington is it a factory Winchester rib? Winchester put there own ribs on model 12's only. Two styles were Simmons designs and produced under Licence by Winchester. There are many faked guns out there and some are impossible to tell. As far as the value on a buildup gun , less than a factory one. If you part out a buildup gun with very nice wood you would get at least $750 with nice wood sets still bringing $450 and up on E-bay.
    Jeff
     
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