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model 12 duck with 32" vent rib whats it worth

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by musky, Apr 18, 2010.

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  1. musky

    musky TS Member

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    I have a winchester model 12 heavy duck gun with a 32" vent rib barrell. The rib is a simmons round post rib, all it says is simmons patented on it. The gun is currently at glen rock blue getting completely redone. The wood is at phyls wood man getting redone. I'm sure when phyl is done with it, it will be a beautiful gun. Just curious what you guys would put the value at. Thanks from larry.
     
  2. Doug Brown

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    About $750 before the refurbishing.
     
  3. eightbore

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    About $650 after, if it's a good job.
     
  4. tcr1146

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    Or $2500 based on other one advertised on here! Tom Rhoads
     
  5. claybrdr

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    Less than before someone sent it to Simmons, then to be reblued and then to have the stock refinished!
     
  6. TjayE

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    Simmons reblues the gun when they installed the ventilated rib. If this gun is getting reblued again, this will be the second time is has been reblued. I do not know what this does to the value of the gun. It should look good as new when all work is done. Tom
     
  7. Dr.Longshot

    Dr.Longshot Banned Banned

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    The price depends on what type,grade,and style of the wood, and overall condition of the gun when finished, the 32" Bbl is a premium, post a picture when done and I will give you an estimate of what it is worth.


    Gary Bryant
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  8. flabigpapa

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    Dr. Longshot, Please help me with pricing on this one..Thanks Bart Reynolds.
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  9. g7777777

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    500-650 depending on how fast you want to sell it

    If it had a factory vent rib (very rare) and was in this original condition- $2500-- but it is not
     
  10. Hap MecTweaks

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    Uh, do I see a pigeon on the mag tube? Dandy looking model 12 you have there Bart!!!

    Hap
     
  11. flabigpapa

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    GN7777, Thought you were one of the in the Know..here on T.S. Guess not..It's a Factory Solid Rib 32" Super Speed / Super X Pigeon Grade Gun.. @ $500-$600 I will take ALL you can Find ...And I will TRiple the Price Just cuz..You need Help.
     
  12. Hap MecTweaks

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    Bart, put me down for a couple of those also guy!!

    Hap
     
  13. OLD ONE EYE

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    Musky 32 inch guns are not so common and with a donut post rib 3 inch I would find a real expert as we are just gun nuts with opinions all over the place but we have fun.
     
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    I think old Gene has lost his knack for pricing these guns?! Tom Rhoads
     
  15. ExFedex

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    Sold mine recently for $1000. It was not a Pidgeon grade. Had a solid rib,32" Super X Magnum barrel. About mid 30's vintage. It also had been re-done by Glenrock. When you get it back it will be better than any factory finish. The man I sold it to loves M12's and had a SBT with a release installed that I fell in love with. We are both happy.
     
  16. g7777777

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    Guys you must be looking at something I am not looking at

    This is a simmons ribbed gun- vent rib- not a solid rib

    If it were a factory solid ribbed refinised though- same price 500-650

    If it were a factory ventilated rib again- in original condition 2500 but its not

    regards from Iowa

    Gene

    PS you can clearly see the simmons rib in the picture plus the poster says its a simmons rib add on
     
  17. Dr.Longshot

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    Flabigpapa: It appeares to be a solid rib model 12 with nice wood and jewelled bolt and shell lifter, nice bluing, it does not look like a genuine Winchester Pigeon, the pigeon is fatter, not a slim sleek one wit the grass at the pigeon's feet and the addition of something below the pigeon on the reciever.

    I would say it would bring $750 up to $1000 depending on the buyer, if it had a nice trap pad would help, is this a 3 inch gun? 30"inch or 32" inch Bbl? If it is a 32" inch Bbl $850-$1200 est from pictures, What adjust ment is the head space adjustment on? Tight and on 1st notches more money. If Bbl is loose and on last adjustment, $500-$750.

    Any 32" model 12 will bring premium price, or I should say than an equal condition 30"inch model 12.

    There were a few Pigeon Grade Solid Rib Model 12s made, but I do not believe this is an original Pigeon, could tell better with gun in my hands.

    There is a fellow in West Virginia that engraves Pigeons on the Bbl Extensions.

    The factory pigeon has detailed feathers on it's neck, wings, and grass at it's feet in 3 bladed clumps. It is a very slim trim pigeon, not a pregnant pigeon or Quail type Pigeon, there are a lot of fake pigeons out there.


    Gary Bryant
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  18. rodbuster

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    I have been told by more than one person who witnessed this, that there was an individual at the Grand years back, who would engrave a pigeon on any model 12. I was told there was a line of people waiting to get the pigeon engraved on their model 12's. It sounds to me like there are a lot of "imitation" pigeon grades.
     
  19. Shipbuilder

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    Amodel 12 Vent Rib Duck Gun sold on GB yesterday for $580. I am not an expert but it looks like somebody got a deal.

    Jim
     
  20. eightbore

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    I agree that the pictured gun is not an original Pigeon. The engine turning is not correct for starters. Well, starters would be enough for me. However, it is a very nice upgraded gun with wonderful wood. By the way, I have a factory original Pigeon Magnum buttstock that I would sell for $1000 if anyone has a real Pigeon Magnum with bad wood. It is very fancy, original lead, original pad, and correct checkering pattern. I have had it for years and have never been able to find a gun to fit it to.
     
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