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Model 12, 28 ga question

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Turbo1, Feb 8, 2011.

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  1. Turbo1

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    A recent thread posed the question "How do you know your model 12, 28 ga is correct?". I've owned a model 12, 28 ga solid rib, stamped skeet for many years. What is the best way to confirm it is correct? Let us know, thank you, K & C
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  2. DB Bill

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    It's really hard to tell with 100% certainty unless you're the original owner. Sell it to me and save yourself the stress of worrying --- got $1,000 in my pocket ready to go.
     
  3. RunGunIPSC

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    Ask around & find a good Win book. Sometimes you see them at a gun show & you can buy one or sneak a quick peak. If you really run into trouble,e-mail me,my buddy has a good one. Tom
     
  4. Turbo1

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    Thanks for the offer. Thank you for the book suggestion, I'll look for that. The serial number range is 8069XX
     
  5. g7777777

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    A high percentage of the 28 gauges you see being passed off as factory were really built up on 16 gauge receivers ( which at one time you couldnt give a 16 gauge away)

    Regards from Iowa

    Gene
     
  6. boomer

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    Your gun is in the correct serial number range and looks correct. Pull off the butt stock and the back of the frame should be stamped 28!
     
  7. Bob Hawkes

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    I suppose this is one of the reasons you always get a fair deal from the Boomer. Shoot often and well while we can, God Bless, Bob
     
  8. g7777777

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    But receivers are reserial numbered and the back of the receiver also- now you can then check the two digit and 3 digit numbers on the small parts and see if they match

    They dont have the records for all the model 12s made so you really need an expert on model 12 28 gauges. Lots of experienced people have been taken with 28 gauges

    Regards from Iowa

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    Upon reflection, I've never seen a faked solid rib gun. I'm sure they exist, but it is harder to execute that one. I've had fakes with perfectly marked Winchester barrels that included the 2 7/8" chamber stamping. There were original barrels that were used in some of these gun, but they were all vent ribbed--some with round post and donut hole base.
     
  10. claybrdr

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    Never seen a solid rib fake. The stock should be marked "28 ga" too, some were.
     
  11. bigbore613

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    There are at least two guys out there with the original roll stamps and the ability to make model 12 and 42 solid ribs EXACTLY like the factory.One has the original Winchester polishing machinery. Neither had anything to do with Andy's. The roll stamps I have seen were all post war but the others are most likely out there also. Jeff
     
  12. Turbo1

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    Thank you to each of you for your posts & skilled feedback. This is very helpful. I've owned this gun for over 30 years, it loves chuckars, quail & pheasants! I'll explore your ideas on correctness. Thanks again.
     
  13. Turbo1

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    Update: I removed the back stock as suggested, and was happy to find 28 stamped on receiver. Thank you to everyone again for the suggestions & feedback.
     
  14. boomer

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    Your gun just had the "right" look in the photo. I was pretty sure you'd find that 28 on the frame. You've got a gun that would bring at least 5K at auction.
     
  15. g7777777

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    Having 28 stamped on the back doesnt put you any closer to it being real- that is done on every fake I have ever seen

    Now a couple of people have said they havent seen a fake with a matt rib- well if you were fooled- how would you know?

    I have seen a fake with a matt rib so identified by an expert.

    Yours may be real but only a real expert would be able to tell-

    Regards from Iowa

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  16. Turbo1

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    thank you Boomer & Gene. appreciate the cautionary input. this horse has run its race.
     
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