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minimum velocity for 1oz load

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  1. 1stout

    1stout TS Member

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    I've tried the search and haven't found much. I'm setting up a new(used) reloader and was wondering what the minumum velocity is before i run the risk of a 1 oz load not firing. I loaded 4 boxes that should be around 1050 fps and was going to try them behind the house tonight before changing bushings. Do I need to go faster to keep the pressure up? Just wondering what others have run into. Thanks

    Michael
     
  2. ec90t

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    Michael,

    I would think that if you used published load data then you'll be allright.

    ec90t
     
  3. timb99

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    Go to Hodgdon's website and look for 1 ounce data with Winchester Winlite Powder.

    If you use an autoloader like an 1100, these loads probably will not open the action. Pressure is waaaaay too low.
     
  4. SAMC

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    I use a 17.5 Green Dot load that chrono's at 1160fps. Works well- no puffers. Sam
     
  5. ec90t

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    timb99,

    Good call on the 1100. I forget about those using lite loads in autos.

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  6. BDodd

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    Were it me, 1stout, I'd reduce payload before reducing the powder/velocity angle. I have very good results with 7/8 oz loads with #9s but DO have to keep the velocity up to around 1200 fps as a minimum to keep a consistent velocity over the chronograph. If you're working toward light recoil, I'd guess the reduced payload would be a quicker way to do that. If you're trying to save money, you'll save more in reducing shot than reducing powder. Using smaller shot, 8 1/2s or 9s and just 7/8 oz you can keep the pellet count up to or above 1 oz of 8s or larger.....Bob Dodd
     
  7. 1stout

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    I've tried the search and haven't found much. I'm setting up a new(used) reloader and was wondering what the minumum velocity is before i run the risk of a 1 oz load not firing. I loaded 4 boxes that should be around 1050 fps and was going to try them behind the house tonight before changing bushings. Do I need to go faster to keep the pressure up? Just wondering what others have run into. Thanks

    Michael
     
  8. ec90t

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    Michael,

    I would think that if you used published load data then you'll be allright.

    ec90t
     
  9. timb99

    timb99 Well-Known Member

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    Go to Hodgdon's website and look for 1 ounce data with Winchester Winlite Powder.

    If you use an autoloader like an 1100, these loads probably will not open the action. Pressure is waaaaay too low.
     
  10. SAMC

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    I use a 17.5 Green Dot load that chrono's at 1160fps. Works well- no puffers. Sam
     
  11. ec90t

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    timb99,

    Good call on the 1100. I forget about those using lite loads in autos.

    ec90t
     
  12. BDodd

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    Were it me, 1stout, I'd reduce payload before reducing the powder/velocity angle. I have very good results with 7/8 oz loads with #9s but DO have to keep the velocity up to around 1200 fps as a minimum to keep a consistent velocity over the chronograph. If you're working toward light recoil, I'd guess the reduced payload would be a quicker way to do that. If you're trying to save money, you'll save more in reducing shot than reducing powder. Using smaller shot, 8 1/2s or 9s and just 7/8 oz you can keep the pellet count up to or above 1 oz of 8s or larger.....Bob Dodd
     
  13. 1stout

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    Thanks for the posts. The current load is around 17.5 +/-.2 grains of American Select and when I relooked it up it should put me around 1150 fps and not 1050 fps. I think I still want to try them out before I go to club and have any issues on the line. The only other problem is that my wife isn't very good at the hand thrower; she wants an automatic one but I don't want to spend the money it. We just need to have a couple kids so they can throw the birds for me. Thanks

    Michael
     
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    I agree with EE, but first I want to ask "What gauge gun is it?"

    If it's a 12 gauge, use the fastest powder available to load light, slow loads. That would probably be Red Dot, Clays, or Solo 1000.
     
  15. Jollytrapshooter

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    One of the guys I shoot with loads 7/8 ounce of our homemade 8's. We took a couple and chronographed them, and they were right around 1240 fps. He gave me a box to try at trap and I must say, I was completely surprised, they had very minimal recoil, especially in my BT-99, and they just smashed birds. It was almost like shooting a 22...Hope this helps, Josh.
     
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    They seem to pattern best & break targets best for me at about 1150 fps. Any less & they seem to chunk targets. More speed does nothing,maybe even a liitle worse. All my loads are chrono'ed so that is why I say 1150.
     
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    There is a minimum pressure/vel for most powder/wad/shot combinations. The abreviated answer is load the 1 Oz shells to about 1,150-1,200 fps and use a fast powder. My favorite powders for the 1 Oz are Clays and 700X.
     
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    Michael, maybe youwill post the components you use and we can better help you.

    I load STS hull, STS209 primer, 17gr Am Sel, TGT-12 wad and 1oz magnum shot. It is listed at 1150fps @6925psi. It is just a little dirty for Am Sel, so that tell me there really isn't enough pressure for a really good burn. Substituting a W209 primer for the STS209 mostly solves that problem. Normally, I prefer 18.0 to 18.4gr Am Sel in that load.

    My favorite 1oz load uses the components listed above but 16gr e3 powder. Works like a charm in warm, hot or cold weather. Basically, if you want a 1oz load at under 1200fps, you are better of with Red Dot speed, or something faster, like e3, Clay Dot, Clays, 700X, etc.
     
  19. 1stout

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    This is all very good information, I've always used AS because I like how clean it is in both my break opens and my autos but I'm thinking I'd like to try something else. I'll burn through a box tonight and if that goes well try some at the gun club tomorrow. I'll let you know how they do. Thanks

    Michael
     
  20. $$90-T$$

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    I shoot same load as "zzt". E3 seems to be a very consistent powder. Some people don't like spending the extra money for the Rem 209 primers, but I've loaded 1000's of shells without a failure to fire due to a bad primer. Any way ,over all good load but not the cheapest. Good luck.
    Josh Andersen
     
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