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Mike Huckabee For President?

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by Sgt. Mike, Jan 2, 2008.

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  1. Sgt. Mike

    Sgt. Mike TS Member

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    We had a thread going so I wanted to see where Huckabee stood on the 2nd Ammendment. This is just for information. Whether it's what he will really does is yet to be seen IF he has a chance of winning.

    Go to www.mikehuckabee.com and check out issues.

    2nd Amendment RightsSend to a friend

    The Second Amendment is primarily about tyranny and self-defense, not hunting. The Founding Fathers wanted us to be
    able to defend ourselves from our own government, if need be, and from all threats to our lives and property.
    Second Amendment rights belong to individuals, not cities or states. I oppose gun control based on geography.
    I consistently opposed banning assault weapons and opposed the Brady Bill.
    As Governor, I protected gun manufacturers from frivolous law suits.
    I was the first Governor in the country to have a concealed handgun license.

    No candidate has a stronger, more consistent record on Second Amendment rights than I do. Our Founding Fathers, having endured the tyranny of the British Empire, wanted to guarantee our God-given liberties. They devised our three branches of government and our system of checks and balances. But they were still concerned that the system could fail, and that we might someday face a new tyranny from our own government. They wanted us to be able to defend ourselves, and that's why they gave us the Second Amendment. They knew that a government facing an armed populace was less likely to take away our rights, while a disarmed population wouldn't have much hope. As Ronald Reagan reminded us, "Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction." Without our Second Amendment rights, all of our other rights aren't inalienable, they're just "on loan" from the government.

    Other candidates say gun control doesn't affect hunting. Now I'm a very avid hunter, but the Second Amendment isn't really about hunting. It's about tyranny and self-defense. The Founding Fathers weren't worried about our being able to bag a duck or a deer, they were worried about our keeping our fundamental freedoms.

    I once saw a bumper sticker that said, "Criminals prefer unarmed victims." Criminals will always find a way to get guns. By disarming our law-abiding citizens, we take away the strongest deterrent to violent criminals - the uncertainty that they don't know who is helpless and who is armed. Our law enforcement officials can't be everywhere, all the time. Lawfully-armed citizens back them up and prevent robberies, rapes, and the murder of innocents. Right after Katrina, with law enforcement non-existent, many victims were able to protect their lives, their homes, and their precious supplies of food and water only because they were armed.

    Other candidates believe gun control should be determined geographically, but Second Amendment rights belong to individuals, not cities or states. Your Second Amendment rights don't change when you change your address.

    Other candidates filed frivolous law suits against gun manufacturers. When I was Governor, I protected gun manufacturers from exactly those types of suits. I allowed former law enforcement officials to carry concealed handguns and removed restrictions on concealed handgun permit holders. I was the first Governor in the country to have a concealed handgun license, and of course I'm a lifetime member of the National Rifle Association.

    Other candidates have supported banning assault weapons. When the federal ban on assault weapons expired in 2004, I said, "May it rest in peace." It won't be returning in the Huckabee Administration.

    Zealously protecting your Second Amendment rights is another way that I will lift all law-abiding Americans up, by consistently championing your right to defend yourself. End of 2nd Ammendment Issues, by Huckabee.

    I've been researching different candidates because the 2nd Ammendment is the #1 issue for us. I ordered an absentee Democratic ballot for the election and saw where they put in "undecided". I asked for "none of the above" to be put in next time so we had a true choice. I've decided that I'm not voting for a Democrat and "undecided" was a lie. I can't remember when I did vote for a Democrat. One of us registers Republican and the other Democrat so we get all of the information. We vote for a pro-gun agenda.

    Please send this up for awhile.

    Michael
     
  2. cdconley

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    Talk about jumping on the media hype and their take of a man’s stance on an issue like immigration.

    The only thing that Huckabee did to cause him to be labeled as soft on immigration was to support the idea of allowing children of immigrants that had no idea they had grown up here illegally to be allowed AFTER OBTAINING LEGAL STATUS to pay instate tuition. I see nothing wrong with this at all. So let’s say that a 2yr old came to this country and went to school in AR for 12yrs. Then finds out that his parents brought him here illegally 16yrs ago. What Huckabee supported was allowing that person (not his parents) to go to school in AR paying instate tuition ONLY AFTER THEY APPLIED AND OBTAINED LEGAL STATUS. THIS IS NOT BEING SOFT ON THOSE THAT CAME HERE ILLEGALLY. Remember there was no intent on the part of this student to break any law.

    Huckabee supports building a fence and securing the border. He supports enforcement of our immigration laws. He apposes amnesty. Do you really think that Romney or Giuliani that governed over a sanctuary state and city will do anything about illegal immigration. Do you really think that McCain who has been in the forefront of every amnesty program will do anything to stop immigration. McCain has even been left of our left wing democrat governor on immigration issues here in Arizona. The only candidate that has a better record on immigration dropped out. The only ones that I believe would do as well as Huckabee on the issue that are still in the race are Thompson and Paul but Paul is a total nut job on foreign and defense issues and would be a bigger problem then any democrat.
     
  3. smokerz

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    So, Coonley, when are you or Huckleberry going to explain how he'll achieve energy independence in 8 years? Have either of you figured out how much energy we use yet? LMAO!!!!
     
  4. stokinpls

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    Any bets the ol' lady votes for Hillary?

    "Girl lies about Iraq death for sold-out tickets

    The Associated Press
    Posted : Monday Dec 31, 2007 8:41:25 EST

    GARLAND, Texas — The opening line to an essay that won a 6-year-old girl four tickets to an upcoming Hannah Montana concert was a powerful one: “My daddy died this year in Iraq.”

    It also appears to be false.

    The girl’s mother admitted to contest organizers that the essay and the military information she provided about her daughter’s father were untrue. Now the sponsor of the contest is considering taking away the girl’s tickets, said the CEO of Club Libby Lu, a Chicago-based store that sells clothes, accessories and games intended for young girls.

    Company spokeswoman Robyn Caulfield said Priscilla Ceballos, the mother, has admitted the essay was false.

    “We did the essay, and that’s what we did to win. We did whatever we could do to win,” Ceballos said in an interview with Dallas TV station KDFW. “But when (Caulfield) asked me if this essay is true, I said, ‘No, this essay is not true.”’

    Ceballos had told Club Libby Lu officials that the girl’s father died April 17 in a roadside bombing in Iraq, Caulfield said. She identified the soldier as Sgt. Jonathon Menjivar.

    But the Department of Defense has no record of anyone with that name dying in Iraq.

    “We regret that the original intent of the contest, which was to make a little girl’s holiday extra special, has not been realized in the way we anticipated,” said Mary Drolet, the CEO of Club Libby Lu.

    The saga began Friday with company officials surprising the girl at a Club Libby Lu at a mall in suburban Garland, about 20 miles northeast of Dallas. The girl won a makeover that included a blonde Hannah Montana wig, as well as the grand prize: airfare for four to Albany, N.Y., and four tickets to the sold-out Hannah Montana concert on Jan. 9.

    Later in the day, the company learned that the essay was false.

    “We are reviewing the facts in the matter so that we may determine an appropriate resolution to the situation,” Drolet said."
     
  5. crusha

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    Rescind the concert tickets - give Mom a one-way ticket to Iraq...
     
  6. Hipshot 3

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    I don't care WHERE he stands on the 2nd Amendment! He's a Baptist Minister.............that's enough for me to find someone else to vote for.....even Hillary! We got enough trouble trying to keep the church out of politics and government.....why do we want to make that harder? Geez! Let's get smart for just ONCE in this election!
     
  7. shot410ga

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    I saw him on the late night show last night. He does play a good bass, and very glib. He was funny and quick on the uptake. I kind of liked him.
     
  8. Questor

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    The people of America will not elect anyone with a name like Huckabee. We pick cooler sounding names to elect. Superficial maybe, but that's the way it works.
     
  9. HOT-HAMMER

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    "I LIKE MIKE"...He's got my vote...if its get that far...Rick
     
  10. Michael Jobe

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    The guy thinks creationism should be taught in school.... he's a religious nut, and I wouldn't want to see him in the white house.

    ~Michael
     
  11. cdconley

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    Smokingdope,

    Unlike you I have answered questions posed to me. But unlike me you either choose to ignore the answers or the answers are above your comprehension. But understanding that you don’t understand anything that you don’t get off the moveon.org website I’ll try and lay it out for you in a step by step process.

    1.Elect people that don’t buy into the BS that mankind is causing Global Warming.

    2.Tell the left wing loons (like yourself) to take a hike.

    3.Build more nuclear power plants. (after accomplishing #1&2 this should go quickly, after all the only hold up is always caused by left wing BS)

    4.Push the Boucher Shimkus Energy Bill ASAP. This will give private companies a set bottom pricing at about $40/barrel equivalent to ensure they don’t lose their ass. (also after completing 1&2 above this would happen very quickly without the roadblocks that environuts throw at us).

    5.Once 1-4 have been completed, private greed and American ingenuity will take over. With current technology the cost to extract usable fuel from shale or coal is the equivalent of 30-40/ barrel. Currently oil companies and the US are paying close to $100 a barrel. The last time the industry spent money to pursue these fuels was after the 73 oil embargo. But they lost their ass because oil fell below the cost of production. The Boucher Shimkus bill would prevent that from happening. BTW, the technology that they were using in the mid 70 was much more costly then technology today. In fact two methods they can use today don’t even require mining of the Shale. They now have methods of extracting the oil from the shale without even taking the shale out of the ground. Current estimates are a minimum or 2 Trillion barrels and as much as 20 Trillion barrels just in Shale without consideration of the coil and petroleum that we’re sitting on.

    6.Go after the petroleum that we have within our reach that we haven’t touched because of the lefts assertion that carbon fuels are bad. Start drilling in the gulf, off our coast, in the artic circle and in Alaska. And when I say start drilling what that really means is take the handcuffs of the oil industry and allow them to spend their money to go after these recourses.

    7.Eventually 200-300 years from now we’ll be out of these fuels (except for nuclear) so spend a little of the Trillions we’ll save not buying foreign oil on development of other recourses. Instead of the democratic plan of abolishing the use of carbon based fuels and destroying our economy. Consider hydrogen and bio fuels as “future resources” and stop trying to shove them down our throats at the cost of our way of life.

    Hopefully you can understand this, if not I suggest some tutoring. Tell me, is English your second language?
     
  12. Hipshot 3

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    cdconley.....Gee, how do I get to be as smart as you are?
     
  13. cdconley

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    Hipshot3,

    It's simple really. I just take the position that I don’t know much. So that motivates me to do a massive amount of research on the subjects that I’m interested in or that have an impact on my life. I find it absolutely amazing how much knowledge can be picked up with a little digging.
     
  14. Setterman

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    What exactly is Hillary's plan for energy independance? Carbon credits? Kill the manufacturing base with more taxes. Hope you like your job.
     
  15. cdconley

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    I’m still keeping my fingers crossed for Mike, but I believe that he’s been weathering the beating he’s getting from the press and his opponents lately very well and is losing traction. I think to get any “bounce” coming out of Iowa he needed a decisive win and it doesn’t look like he’s going to get it. The next on my list would be Thompson, but roomer is that if he finishes below 3rd today he’ll drop out and that’s looks likely. I also like Hunter, but he has no chance at all. Next would be Romney and although I like him on several issues, anyone that says “provide health insurance for those that really need it” scares the hell out of me as a taxpayer. McCain I have a real problem with, his position on Guantanimo prisoners, his relationship and co sponsoring of bills with left wing loons scares me. But the big issue I have with McCain is his stance on immigration. This guy is bound and determined to grant amnesty in some form, just as every one of the democrats will do. Then we have Giuliani, where do I began on the issues that scare me about this guy. He’s been on the wrong side of Gun Control in NY City, the wrong side of the abortion issue, the wrong side of gay marriage and NY City was a sanctuary city for illegal immigrants under his governorship. Why don’t we have a candidate that is a fully rounded conservative? Why do we have to take the good with the bad?
     
  16. cdconley

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    Setterman,

    Hillarys energy plan is the same as the rest of the left. NO OIL BASE FUELS.
     
  17. Sgt. Mike

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    I mentioned issue #1 and the people who contribute to the thought process brought out the other issues. It's great to see people who expand the thinking process. We have a lot of issues to deal with and who will be the best to do that? Michael
     
  18. oz

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    if you belonged to the NRA you would have gotten a statement from most of the candidates. oz
     
  19. cdconley

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    waterhouselake,

    I agree with you that none of these guys are spot on with all the important issues, but I disagree with you about the third party choice. And frankly don’t understand the logic behind making that kind of vote. That is unless the third party candidate is better then the GOP nominee and has a least a slim chance of winning. So let’s look at who might be the person you could place that vote for (which in reality is a vote for the democrats). We might see Michael Bloomberg who just might be a little left of Obama and definitely left of any of the GOP guys. Then I’m betting you’ll see Ron Paul running as an independent by mid summer. Now Ron has some things going for him, until that is you start talking about national defense then you start wondering what rock he crawled out from under. I think a couple of dems are more to my liking then he is. So what do you get for your third party vote? A democrat and with that you’ll get surrender in the war on terror, socialized medicine, amnesty and open borders, tax increases for a slower economy, energy solutions that include controlling the type of car you use and getting rid of all carbon fuel, increasing spending for controlling global warming BS, Judges that will assist them in taking your guns and making things like late term abortion on 12yr old girls without their parents permission common occurrences, you can also kiss any semi auto weapons goodbye and god help you if you own a 50cal sniper rifle. Bottom line is you’re going to Hillary or one of the GOP guys, which do like like better?
     
  20. 100straight

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    The men who wrote the Constitution really knew what they were doing. They designed a government that has lasted over 200 years. But, they also offered some warnings to future generations concerning how to keep our nation viable. John Adams made a statement in 1798 that I believe was an unplanned prophecy of doom for the United States. I believe his statement is absolutely true.

    He said, "Our constitution is made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other."

    In 2008, when I examine America, I see a nation that is no longer moral or religious. I take no pleasure in the knowledge that this nation is in the final throws of death, having succumbed to the ignorance of socialism wearing the guise of left-wing liberalism, and that so many of my fellow shooters have fallen into the trap of secular humanism.

    Shoot well and often, (while you still can)

    Mark.
     
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