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Michael Vick's defense strategy

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by grnberetcj, Aug 20, 2007.

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  1. grnberetcj

    grnberetcj Active Member

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    F.A.B.

    Curt
     
  2. shot410ga

    shot410ga Well-Known Member

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    I hear he's calling all live bird shooters for defense money. Seems dog fights, and live bird shoots are about equal in the minds of most people. So, all you live bird shooters send your money to the Mike Vick fund for defense of blood sports. Oh, we've come such a long way!!!! That's why trap was invented, so we didn't have to resort to this.
     
  3. W.P.T.

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    He will play the race card and get off with 30 days probation and 40 hours of public service cleaning the dog pens at the shelter ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
  4. bobby ward

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    Easy Jimmy,

    Ignorance oft times speaks out loudest on its own as we witnessed in his post above.
     
  5. Loyac

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    Every well known and affluent African American is going to play the race card. OJ set a precedent on how to get away with a crime by doing so. But don't blame the athletes guys... Blame their lawyers, those defense attorneys whose lack of ethics and want of $$$'s is dragging the morality of this great nation into the gutter. Any high profile case (affluency being at the core), regardless of race or gender is turned into a circus act. Check out the Phil Spector debacle as a prime example. John
     
  6. Gargoyle!

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    For what I have heard he will never be on a football field again. With going to jail, being suspended from the NFL, the NFL worried about his betting, and then theres the fed about his betting. We will not be seeing is sorry ass for some time.
     
  7. grammie

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    He will "cop" a plea deal,,,,admit his guilt,,,serve perhaps 1 year,,,and then throw himself upon the mercy of his team owner,,NFL fans,,and americans in general!!!

    And since people who live and breath football cannot hold their thoughts or memories for more than 1 quarter of an hour at a time,,,,this incident will slip completlty from the memory of said fans,,,,,,just as murder,,rape,,robbery,,gambling,,steroids,,players connected with gangs that use their money to fund the purchase of automatic weapons has done so many times in the past!!!!!

    Your taxes paid for the stadium,,,they may as well have paid for another prison,,and just recruit players straight from C-Block!!!!!

    AKA Grammie...........
     
  8. rscotty

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    By way of update: He just pleaded guilty. No details on the bargain are available yet.
     
  9. rscotty

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    Off the news wire:

    WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick agreed on Monday to plead guilty in a dog-fighting case that could wreck the U.S. star's football career.


    His attorney, Thomas Shuttleworth, told Reuters that Vick, 27, reached a deal with prosecutors and will plead guilty in the case that has attracted worldwide attention.


    Vick could go to jail. Had he not cut a deal, the multimillionaire player was likely to face a new indictment with more charges, legal sources have said.


    The National Football League Web site said Vick, one of the league's highest-paid players, would appear in court on August 27.


    His indictment by a federal grand jury on July 17 badly damaged the reputation of one of the NFL's best-known players. The NFL, whose season begins next month, suspended the three-time Pro Bowl selection after the indictment.


    Vick, the top pick in the 2001 NFL draft out of Virginia Tech, faced up to six years in prison and $350,000 in fines if convicted on all of the initial charges.


    A strong-armed quarterback and breakaway runner who is one of the NFL's most dynamic players, Vick is accused of helping run an interstate dog-fighting enterprise known as "Bad Newz Kennels" from 2001 through April 2007.


    Dogfighting, in which two dogs bred to fight are placed in a pit to attack each other for spectators' entertainment and gambling, is illegal in the United States.


    Vick had initially denied direct involvement in the pit bull fights that the indictment said took place on his property in Virginia.


    UNDERPERFORMING DOGS


    Prosecutors charged that dogs sometimes fought to the death and some losing or underperforming dogs had been shot, drowned, hanged, electrocuted or killed by being slammed to the ground.


    Vick accepted the plea deal after two of his associates agreed to cooperate with prosecutors as part of their plea deals, according to documents filed in U.S. District Court in Richmond, Virginia, where the case is pending.


    Purnell Peace, 35, and Quanis Phillips, 28, pleaded guilty last week before U.S. District Judge Henry Hudson to one count involving the dog-fighting ring, which prosecutors say was run from Vick's property in Virginia.


    The judge set sentencing for the two men on November 30.


    The only other defendant in the case, Tony Taylor, 34, pleaded guilty late last month and also agreed to cooperate with prosecutors in the case against Vick.


    Vick, a rare talent who threw for 20 touchdowns and ran for more than 1,000 yards last season for the Falcons, lost major endorsements following his indictment. Nike suspended the release of a new Michael Vick shoe that had been set to hit stores this month and Reebok stopped selling his jerseys.


    Heavily criticized in the media and by animal rights groups, Vick was told by the NFL not to attend preseason training with the Falcons.
     
  10. jnoemanh

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    He could always raise the Bible defense - "dominion over the animals".
     
  11. halfmile

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    Mike Tyson's protege.

    Just do whatever you want, cause you be da MAN!!

    Arrogance is its own reward.

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  12. Bisi

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    I bet he doesn't get any time at all. He will probably get probation with community service and be back playing football next year. He can take the year off and work on his rap music career.
     
  13. Beancounter

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    I cannot see them cutting a deal that avoids prison. The feds are holding all the cards. As a first time offender, he certainly won't get the max but will probably get about a year or year and half in prison with that then that ankle bracelet release like Martha Stweward had.

    But the NFL will be under the gun to suspend him for life for both criminal behavior and the gambling thing. However his plea is on conspiracy, he is not pleading guilty to gambling or wailing the tar out of animals or anything of the grisly things associated with dog fighting. I suspect he will use the race card etc after he gets out of jail so he can get back into football. Will it work? It is hard to say.

    But what I must comment on is this. Lots of stuff goes on in the criminal world, there are people sold into a life of slavery, people involved with drugs and killings, people swindling uncle sam out of big money in taxes. How does something like a dog fighting ring get onto the Federal radar? With all of the nasty criminal activities occuring every day, should it have been on the Federal radar.

    I do not feel bad for MV, he broke the law, got caught, screwed himself. My comment is about why the Feds went after him. Dogfighting happens in every crappy city on the east coast - it is a ghetto thing. what made MV a special case?
     
  14. shannon391

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    Looks like he's livin' in a dog eat dog world wearin' milk bone underwear!
     
  15. jnoemanh

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    "How does something like a dog fighting ring get onto the Federal radar?"

    by accident. The Feds went to his house on a drug investigation.
     
  16. Beancounter

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    Thanks jnoemanh, I thought I might have to answer my own question - the feds were following a drug investigation thread that was good enough to get them a warrant. I do not believe the feds give a rats rump about the dogfighting but would like to know a bit more about the drugs and are not going to let go easily. so the story is probably not the story.

    All of those things are going to keep MV out of the NFL forever. He did it to himself - no one had to help him and no one had it in for him.

    Pete Rose will be back in baseball before MV is back in the NFL
     
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