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MEC reloader debate at shoot this weekend

Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by maclellan1911, Jun 10, 2008.

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  1. maclellan1911

    maclellan1911 TS Member

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    I happen to have a few loaders in my truck to tinker with at the state. Almost done with my set up of loaders for my different loads. Any way. Got to talking to a few guys and they started to piss too and fro. The debate A mec reloader will throw more consistant charges with out a resizer? what do you think.
     
  2. Jawhawker

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    And the reason they will, is???
     
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    They must be considering vibration? This might settle the charge and it would be more consistant.
     
  4. Hap MecTweaks

    Hap MecTweaks Well-Known Member

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    Those guys must be regulars on BS dot com.? :) Hap
     
  5. Paladin

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    I disabled the resizer on two of my 9000G's for the very reason of INCONSISTENT vibration. Powder drops were not very consistent at all. After installing support brackets from the top charge bar mechanism to the base of the unit, which helped stiffen things a lot, I still didn't like the vibration. Both resizers have been disabled, and I doubt if they will ever get reconnected again.

    All one has to do is remove the hex bolt in the rear that operates the resizer and try it. It will cost nothing to try.

    On the rare occasion resizing is needed with hulls not fired in my guns, the Super Sizer works slick and very fast.
     
  6. valmet

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    if you have an electronic scale, set it next to your reloader, weigh a fully loaded shell,record the weight and every box or whenever you feel the need just set a shell on it and you can tell at a glance how your loaders doing. dennis
     
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    I have not tried it, but I would be very surprised if disconnecting the resizer collet on a MEC loader would have any affect on the consistency of the powder drops.

    It IS true though, that a single stage MEC loader will drop more consistent AND heavier charges that a Grabber or a 9000 will.

    The reason is that the 6 strokes of the single loader pr. shell settles the powder into the bushing better.
     
  8. Texas Ton

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    So Paladin, just curious, just how consistent are your drops without the resizer in operation?
     
  9. dverna

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    Valmet,
    You must be joking.

    Weighing a completed shell will not tell you anything about powder drops.

    You must have never done what you suggest.

    I once weighed over 250 shells - due to a screw up. There is a lot of variation between shells.

    Don
     
  10. maclellan1911

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    I thought it to be funny how long these two went at it about this.
     
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    I would like to see the Mythbusters do a testing on all these and see what the real answers would be.
     
  12. DocJim

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    I have 2 MEC reloaders; a 9000G (manual) and an older Grabber. Both meter charges +/- .1 grain. I check powder weight about every 12 shells. I could not be more satisfied in that regard. Did you discuss your problem with one of the MEC technical specialists by phone? I have found them to be invaluable in solving reloading problems often going step by step with me over the phone until it's solved. ..........Jim G
     
  13. tcr1146

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    One more time, who is the jokester that suggested weighing a completed loaded shell to check powder charge accuracy?! Some of you guys scare the hell out of me! Tom Rhoads
     
  14. Straight99

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    I had the same problem of different charges being dropped until I stopped at the bottom of the stroke for a 1 count. After that my charges don't vary more than .1gr. And that is with flake powder. Ball powders are even better with almost no difference between drops. Also hang a strip of dryer sheet in the powder bottle ot stop static electricity. I got the information all from MEC.
     
  15. Jawhawker

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    I really really want to know how many people weigh a finished shell to find out how consistent their powder drops are???????????????????????????????
     
  16. halfmile

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    You can tell variation with rifle ammo if you have previously sorted your brass.

    Shotshells, don't make me laugh.

    HM
     
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    My H366 drops a more uniform charge if I do not use the sizing station. The sizing action varies just enough from shell to shell to both throw off the speed of the rise and fall of the press (thus affecting the powder/shot bar) and it creates a different vibration that causes the shot and powder to settle differently. The difference is enough that I have to change bushings when switching between using the station and not using it if I want my charges to remain the same.
     
  18. Allen-MX8

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    I have loaded 41,700 shells on my MEC 9000G and I don't have time to check each load!!

    I am happy with what my MEC does!

    Allen
     
  19. Jollytrapshooter

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    If my reloaded shells are off by 1 or 2 grains, I'm not going to notice when I'm shooting and neither is the bird. The "art", I suppose you could call it that, of shotgun reloading isn't, and never was, intended to be spot on accurate. There's a reason you load rifle on a single stage press, and why you weigh (or at least I do) every 2nd or 3rd powder drop before you put it into the casing and seat the bullet. JMO, Josh.
     
  20. mercedesman1981

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    I too am really happy with my MEC 9000G I purchased earlier this year. When I first started with it, I noticed flakes of powder spilling onto my bench and around the base of the reloader. I thought at first there was a problem with the charge bar - it is the adjustable version, or perhaps the powder baffle. What I quickly figured out is I was bringing the handle up too fast and powder was still coming out of the feed tube as it cleared the top of the hull. That certainly had an effect on weight from one shell to the next. I now slowly raise the handle to let the powder finish flowing into the shell before the feed tube clears the top of the shell. The result is much less powder spilled and more consistent reloads.

    I really like the adjustable charge bars but wish they would do a better job with the markings on the knobs. It would be worth the extra cost.

    Mike
     
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