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  1. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    WHO said the Democrats don't want to ban our guns and ammo? Just keep voting for anti's. You'll get what you deserve.<br>
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    HB 2833<br>
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    1 Be it enacted by the Legislature of the State of Arizona:<br>
    2 Section 1. Title 41, chapter 12, article 5, Arizona Revised Statutes,<br>
    3 is amended by adding section 41-1772, to read:<br>
    4 41-1772. Ammunition coding system database; sale of ammunition;<br>
    5 tax; fund; civil penalty; violation; classification;<br>
    6 definition<br>
    7 . BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2009, A MANUFACTURER SHALL CODE ALL HANDGUN<br>
    8 AND ASSAULT WEAPON AMMUNITION THAT IS MANUFACTURED OR SOLD IN THIS STATE.<br>
    9 THIS SECTION APPLIES TO ALL CALIBERS.<br>
    10 B. BEGINNING JANUARY 1, 2011, A PRIVATE CITIZEN OR A RETAIL VENDOR<br>
    11 SHALL DISPOSE OF ALL NONCODED AMMUNITION THAT IS OWNED OR HELD BY THE CITIZEN<br>
    12 OR VENDOR.<br>
    13 C. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ESTABLISH AND MAINTAIN AN AMMUNITION CODING<br>
    14 SYSTEM DATABASE CONTAINING A MANUFACTURER REGISTRY AND A VENDOR REGISTRY.<br>
    15 D. A MANUFACTURER SHALL:<br>
    16 1. REGISTER WITH THE DEPARTMENT IN A MANNER PRESCRIBED BY THE<br>
    17 DEPARTMENT BY RULE.<br>
    18 2. MAINTAIN RECORDS ON THE BUSINESS PREMISES FOR AT LEAST SEVEN YEARS<br>
    19 CONCERNING ALL SALES, LOANS AND TRANSFERS OF AMMUNITION TO, FROM OR WITHIN<br>
    20 THIS STATE.<br>
    21 3. ENCODE AMMUNITION PROVIDED FOR RETAIL SALE FOR REGULATED FIREARMS<br>
    22 IN A MANNER THAT THE DIRECTOR ESTABLISHES SO THAT:<br>
    23 (a) THE BASE OF THE BULLET AND THE INSIDE OF THE CARTRIDGE CASING OF<br>
    24 EACH ROUND IN A BOX OF AMMUNITION ARE CODED WITH THE SAME SERIAL NUMBER.<br>
    25 (b) EACH SERIAL NUMBER IS ENGRAVED IN SUCH A MANNER THAT IT IS HIGHLY<br>
    26 LIKELY TO PERMIT IDENTIFICATION AFTER AMMUNITION DISCHARGE AND BULLET IMPACT.<br>
    27 (c) THE OUTSIDE OF EACH BOX OF AMMUNITION IS LABELED WITH THE NAME OF<br>
    28 THE MANUFACTURER AND THE SAME SERIAL NUMBER USED ON THE CARTRIDGE CASINGS AND<br>
    29 BASES OF BULLETS CONTAINED IN THE BOX.<br>
    30 4. PAY THE TAX LEVIED BY SUBSECTION I OF THIS SECTION.<br>
    31 E. A MANUFACTURER SHALL NOT LABEL AMMUNITION CONTAINED IN ONE<br>
    32 AMMUNITION BOX WITH THE SAME SERIAL NUMBER AS THE AMMUNITION CONTAINED IN<br>
    33 ANOTHER AMMUNITION BOX THAT IS PRODUCED BY THE SAME MANUFACTURER.<br>
    34 F. A VENDOR SHALL:<br>
    35 1. REGISTER WITH THE DEPARTMENT IN A MANNER PRESCRIBED BY THE<br>
    36 DEPARTMENT BY RULE.<br>
    37 2. RECORD THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IN A FORMAT PRESCRIBED BY THE<br>
    38 DEPARTMENT:<br>
    39 (a) THE DATE OF THE TRANSACTION.<br>
    40 (b) THE NAME OF THE PURCHASER.<br>
    41 (c) THE PURCHASER'S DRIVER LICENSE NUMBER OR OTHER GOVERNMENT ISSUED
    42 IDENTIFICATION CARD NUMBER.<br>
    43 (d) THE DATE OF BIRTH OF THE PURCHASER.<br>
    44 (e) THE UNIQUE IDENTIFIER OF ALL HANDGUN AMMUNITION OR BULLETS
    45 TRANSFERRED.<br>
    HB 2833<br>
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    1 (f) ALL OTHER INFORMATION PRESCRIBED BY THE DEPARTMENT.<br>
    2 3. MAINTAIN RECORDS ON THE BUSINESS PREMISES FOR AT LEAST THREE YEARSv
    3 AFTER THE DATE OF THE RECORDED PURCHASE.<br>
    4 G. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ESTABLISH THE AMMUNITION CODING SYSTEM<br>
    5 DATABASE WITHIN THE FRAMEWORK OF ANY EXISTING FIREARMS DATABASES.<br>
    6 H. ACCESS TO INFORMATION IN THE AMMUNITION CODING SYSTEM DATABASE IS<br>
    7 RESERVED FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT PERSONNEL. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL ONLY RELEASE<br>
    8 INFORMATION IN CONNECTION WITH A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION.<br>
    9 I. A TAX OF ONE-HALF CENT IS LEVIED ON EACH BULLET OR ROUND OF<br>
    10 AMMUNITION THAT IS SOLD IN THIS STATE. THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE SHALL<br>
    11 COLLECT THE TAX AND DEPOSIT THE TAX, PURSUANT TO SECTIONS 35-146 AND 35-147,<br>
    12 IN THE CODED AMMUNITION FUND ESTABLISHED BY SUBSECTION J OF THIS SECTION.<br>
    13 J. THE CODED AMMUNITION FUND IS ESTABLISHED CONSISTING OF MONIES<br>
    14 DEPOSITED PURSUANT TO SUBSECTION I OF THIS SECTION. THE DEPARTMENT SHALL<br>
    15 ADMINISTER THE FUND. SUBJECT TO LEGISLATIVE APPROPRIATION, MONIES IN THE<br>
    16 FUND SHALL BE USED FOR THE PURPOSE OF ESTABLISHING AND MAINTAINING THE<br>
    17 AMMUNITION CODING SYSTEM DATABASE PRESCRIBED BY THIS SECTION.<br>
    18 K. A MANUFACTURER THAT FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THIS SECTION IS SUBJECT TO<br>
    19 A CIVIL PENALTY OF NOT MORE THAN ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE FIRST<br>
    20 VIOLATION, NOT MORE THAN FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR A SECOND VIOLATION AND NOT<br>
    21 MORE THAN TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR ANY SUBSEQUENT VIOLATION.<br>
    22 L. A VENDOR WHO KNOWINGLY FAILS TO COMPLY WITH THIS SECTION OR WHO<br>
    23 KNOWINGLY FALSIFIES THE RECORDS REQUIRED TO BE KEPT BY THIS SECTION IS GUILTY<br>
    24 OF A CLASS 3 MISDEMEANOR.<br>
    25 M. A PERSON WHO KNOWINGLY DESTROYS, OBLITERATES OR OTHERWISE RENDERS<br>
    26 UNREADABLE THE CODING REQUIRED BY THIS SECTION IS GUILTY OF A CLASS 3<br>
    27 MISDEMEANOR.<br>
    28 N. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "CODE OR CODED" MEANS A UNIQUE<br>
    29 IDENTIFIER THAT HAS BEEN APPLIED BY ETCHING ONTO THE BASE OF A BULLET OR<br>
    30 AMMUNITION PROJECTILE.<br>
    31 Sec. 2. Requirements for enactment; two-thirds vote<br>
    32 Pursuant to article IX, section 22, Constitution of Arizona, this act<br>
    33 is effective only on the affirmative vote of at least two-thirds of the<br>
    34 members of each house of the legislature and is effective immediately on the<br>
    35 signature of the governor or, if the governor vetoes this act, on the<br>
    36 subsequent affirmative vote of at least three-fourths of the members of each<br>
    37 house of the legislature.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    NSSF.org<br>
    Alert: Bullet serialization threat in Arizona<br>
    Bill Status: Under review by three House committees<br>
    Action: Contact committee members and state representatives<br>
    Bullet Serialization Threat in Arizona<br>
    Legislation (HB 2833) that would mandate, as early as 2009, bullet serialization -- the process by which each individual round of ammunition is identified and marked with a laser-engraved serial number -- has been referred to the Arizona House Natural Resources and Public Safety Committee, Appropriations Committee and Rules Committee. The National Shooting Sports Foundation (NSSF), the trade association of the firearms and ammunition industry, has made clear that serializing ammunition on a mass production basis is not feasible from a practical standpoint and any legislation mandating such action could rightfully be considered a de facto ban on ammunition.<br>
    NSSF is encouraging all sportsmen, hunters and firearms enthusiasts to contact members of the Natural Resources and Public Safety Committee, Appropriations Committee, and Rules Committee immediately urging them to strongly oppose this would-be ammunition ban.<br>
    In addition to contacting individual members of these Arizona committees, please consider contacting your own state representative urging him or her to voice their opposition to any bills that would mandate bullet serialization.
    "If manufacturers had to comply with bullet serialization, NSSF estimates that it would take almost three weeks to manufacture what is currently made in a single day," said NSSF Senior Vice President and General Counsel Lawrence G. Keane. "This massive reduction in ammunition would translate into substantially lower sales and profitability, and ultimately force major ammunition manufacturers to abandon the market. In turn, there would be a severe shortage of serialized ammunition and all consumers, including federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, would be faced with substantial price increases. Ammunition will go from costing pennies to several dollars per cartridge."
    The domestic small arms ammunition industry, utilizing modern manufacturing processes and distribution practices, produces between 10 – 12 billion ammunition cartridges a year at already low-profit margins. The three largest domestic manufacturers (who collectively account for the vast majority of the market) produce an estimated 15 million rounds of ammunition in a single day. Ammunition manufacturers could not serialize their product without hundreds of millions of dollars in capital investment to build the new factories that would be needed in order to meet the requirements of bullet serialization. At the same time, hundreds of millions of dollars of existing plants and equipment, and decades of manufacturing (cost-saving) efficiencies, would be rendered obsolete.
    "Bullet Serialization is dangerous and not practical," continued Keane. "As legislation that would mandate bullet serialization not only threatens law-abiding gun owners but our industry's ability to supply the nation's law enforcement officers and military with high-quality ammunition, we encourage all citizens of Arizona to contact members of the Natural Resources and Public Safety Committee, Appropriations Committee and Rules Committee and urge them to oppose these bills."<br>


    National Shooting Sports Foundation | 11 Mile Hill Road, Newtown, CT | NSSF



    This is NOT just an Arizona concern.
     
  2. shadow

    shadow Active Member

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    I cast a lot of my own bullets and have more than a lifetime of brass. Am I to assume I am violating the law?
     
  3. halfmile

    halfmile Well-Known Member

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    Reminds me of the time back in the 60's when the NHTSB wanted motorcycle safety laws.

    They threatened to withhold highway funds from any state that didn't enact them.

    In most cases there were helmet laws, Lights on in the daytime, Handlebar height limitations etc.

    But one genious Michigan legislator Proposed a Seat Belt Law. For motorcycles.

    I think stupidity is a job qualification.

    HM
     
  4. Paladin

    Paladin Well-Known Member

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    Ask them 2str8, and while you are at it, pledge about five hundred to fight against anti Second Amendment candidates,,you know,,the liberals....
     
  5. Dove Commander

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    Brian, who sponsered the bill? Excuse me...who was the a--hole that sponsered the bill?
     
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