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Discussion in 'Uncategorized Threads' started by R.Kipling, Sep 18, 2008.

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  1. R.Kipling

    R.Kipling Well-Known Member

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    I just had to post this information, to enlighten our "McSame" distracted.



    September 17, 2008
    McCain as the real reformer in this race -- the case he needs to make

    Barack Obama seems to be making small strides against John McCain. The Gallup tracking poll has Obama ahead 47-45, his first "lead" (I add quotation marks because this is surely within the margin of error) since September 5. The Rasmussen tracking poll still has McCain "up," 48-47, but this is "down" from the three point advantage McCain enjoyed a few days ago.

    If Obama is gaining, it's not difficult to understand why. First, as the afterglow of the highly successful Republican convention wears off, some voters are probably remembering why they favored Obama not long ago. Second, Obama has been hammering McCain with negative ads. In the Northern Virginia market, I've seen several different Obama attack ads in the past few days and nothing from McCain.

    McCain has one huge potential talking point that I'd like to see him push. It was made by Peter Wallison of the American Enterprise Institute, an expert of Fannie Mae and Freddy Mac. Here, via David Frum, is what Wallison said earlier this summer:

    For a decade reformers have tried to persuade Congress that they were allowing a serious risk to the government’s credit to develop in Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but few lawmakers would take action.
    One of the reasons for this was the extraordinary power of Fannie and Freddie. They not only spent close to $150 million in lobbying over the last decade, but they also got their constituents—the securities industry, the homebuilders and the realtors—all powerful industries that depend on Fannie and Freddie’s largesse—to support their sole legislative objective: the defeat of any attempt to control their growth. Congress, as usual knuckled under to the special interest.

    However, a very small number of lawmakers saw this problem for what it was, and were willing to stand up to the power of Fannie and Freddie—and I am proud to say that John McCain was one of them. In 2005, he joined a small group of Republican Senators to cosponsor the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act, the strongest legislation introduced up to that time to control Fannie and Freddie. In a statement, he noted that “For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac…and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market…If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie and Freddie pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.”

    These were prophetic words, given what we know now, but they did not spring from a sudden conversion in that year. Three years earlier, McCain had introduced legislation—co-sponsored with the House Democratic leader Dick Gephardt—to create a Corporate Subsidy Reform Commission. The purpose of this group was to eliminate what McCain called “corporate welfare”. . . .

    In other words, as far back as 2002, John McCain realized that underlying what would ultimately become the Fannie and Freddie crisis was the willingness of Congress to provide financial support to private corporations. And he was willing to take on powerful interests to stop this process. If his bill had resulted in action at that time, the unprecedented steps that the Secretary of the Treasury and Congress had to take in the last two weeks would not have been necessary.


    Frum adds:

    By contrast, Barack Obama was accepting Fannie's political contributions - and inviting its former CEO to head his vice presidential selection contrast. On the surge and the mortgage crisis, John McCain was both prescient and brave, while Barack Obama was opportunistic and wrong.
    By making this point, McCain can transcend the generalities being hurled back and forth and demonstrate in concrete and timely terms that he, and not Obama, would be the author of change we can believe in.

    UPDATE: NRO's Corner offers language for the ad. After Obama's more generic attack on McCain for being advised by lobbyists, I don't see how the McCain campaign can pass up this shot.
     
  2. recurvyarcher

    recurvyarcher Well-Known Member

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    Informative, thank you.

    I also saw a video on a democratic website where a guy was bashing Palin for having a tanning bed in the governer's mansion. He spent 95 percent of the video bashing her, and 5 percent admitting that she paid for it with her own money.

    I want to see debates and information, not bash-ads. Information such as the post above will help voters make an informed decision on election day.
     
  3. SeldomShoots

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    Kip, This is one perfect example of how John McCain leads and works well with democrats to attempt to correct the problems of our government that were causing a concern 3 years ago. I like the fact that he had the foresight to jump in with others to try to do something about it. It only supports my opinion that he along with Palin are the best team for the job. McCain has always seemed to be team player trying to do the right thing, rather than a self-serving politician.

    curvy, I for one am glad Palin has a tanning bed. Now she is tan, rested and ready to be VP.

    John E.
     
  4. mette56

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    I get up every morning hoping to see John McCain give explicit details as to what he will do about America's woes. But I'm disapointed with the generalized rhetoric I hear. Sarah is much more on target when she addresses issues, but I'm not seeing much of her. The left is pretty smart (what did I just say??) by trashing her to distract from her absolute genius. I keep thinking "He's going to turn it on any minute" but I realized today that there are only 47 days until we vote. I can believe that he is falling in the polls. I recommend JBROOKS for his new head speech writer...and adviser for that matter.

    Woe to us all if John and Sarah do not win.

    milt
     
  5. Shooting Jack

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    Good read. Just makes me more sure that I am making the right decision to vote McCain and Palin. Jackie B.
     
  6. Dove Commander

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    The lack of attack has been the scenario for Republican candidates in the last 2 elections. They need to get it on! State facts and back it up. The American people aren't stupid, but they need to be convinced that John and Sarah are the best, most forthright people on the ticket. The Repubs are missing the boat here. Facts, facts, facts. I also noticed Nipper never answered my question... What will the Democratic delegation do to help the average American? The answer is "We don't know", and they can't answer it, except "We need change". BS, pure BS.
     
  7. R.Kipling

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    Milt,

    Just to ease your concern, the Left aren't smart, they are devious, to a fault. Devious often appears to be 'smart', at first glance. It always falls apart on further scrutiny.
    IMHO,
    Kip
     
  8. mette56

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    Kip,

    That's why the qualifier (what did I just say??). That was a hard statement for me to make. I just hope you are right, and I hope it falls apart in time...and there's not much time! There is much John could say to make his point, but it seems to me he is only addressing the other side's views. Hope he steps out with the real reasons to vote conservative.

    We are both on the same page. MHO is the same as yours.

    Best regards to you my conservative friend,

    milt
     
  9. R.Kipling

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    Milt,

    Frankly, I don't know if McCain has the character to do what it will take to win this election. I'm not that in-tune with his overall thinking either. I'm sure that his life experiences have taken the sharp edges off his personality, I've witnessed it many times in my career. Good man, well intended, but gone soft.

    In his last 10 years he has tried to be inclusive of nearly everyone, and it just doesn't work in the beltway anymore. We have way too many 'Me' generation 60-somethings in important positions. People with situational-ethics and questionable morals. The worst combination imaginable for positions of power. Our country is in for a rough ride, hold on tight, it's not going to be pretty.

    IMHO,
    Kip
     
  10. mette56

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    Kip,

    Well said IMO,

    Now let us pray....

    milt
     
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    If I remember correctly after the last election there was a report about why the voters voted the way the did and what they didn't like. If I recall the #1 thing most said was they didn't like the bashing ads, and a lot said they voted for the person who did the least about of trash talking.

    I too have wondered why the McCain camp has been rather mum in comparison to the competition. The past year has revealed that it appears the Repubs are content to let Obama and his merry band of socialists just run their mouths endlessly. The more he says, the more he scares people while some probably begin to reach for the mute button. I suspect this is the strategic game plan. The Palin planet shaker announcement is one good example of they do actually know how to make big gains with one motion. Maybe next month we'll see the McCain camp kick it into gear. Probably right after the end of the month debate.

    Funny thing is, I don't think I know of anyone (besides my girlfriend) who hasn't already made up their minds who they will vote for.
     
  12. bigdogtx

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    John wants to be easy so he can have allies if he gets elected on the other side of the aisle. He has always tried to do what he thinks is best. It is just sometimes the Repubs don't realize that the Dems don't care what the Repubs think as they want to CONTROL it all; giving us pions just what will keep them in power.

    If John and Sarah don't take the gloves off, they WILL lose the momentum they got from the announcement and picking her. Barack is doing a street fight on them right and he has a bunch of left wing kooks helping him without him "asking" for their help.
     
  13. Brian in Oregon

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    Obama couldn't bother to be around for the vote. It was above his pay grade.
     
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    If any of you didn't see the O Reilly factor tonight, please check out the Obama chronicles he is doing on his show. tonight they talked about his advisors and main backers........4 of them powerful women from chicago. A woman by the name of Valerie Jarrett interested me.........she was born in Iran and is one of his most valued associates. She is his major advisor and has been a major factor for the last 17 years. She is thought to be his person for Chief of Staff. look her up on the internet......interesting info. I can't remember the names of the other ladies........but check out the info. I don't like to do political stuff much on here.....but this is very interesting to me with all of the Iran controversy right now........

    L
     
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    Kipling is a Moveon.org worker-weasel, do not bother to engage the vermin in rational dialogue....he is being paid to plant doubts in the gun-owning community because he knows Hussein Obama will work closely with his mentor Teddy Kennedy to RESTRICT GUN OWNERSHIP AND OUTRIGHT BAN MANY TYPES OF GUNS!


    OBAMA IS A METROSEXUAL RADICAL LEFT WING WEASEL WHO WILL BAN YOUR GUNS!
     
  17. R.Kipling

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    Bangalore,

    Please, take a reading comprehension course, and then re-read my posts. Your knee-jerk, empty-headed insults only prove one thing: “The greatest ignorance is to reject something you know nothing about” (Confucius). And, I'm trying to be kind, here.

    Most Sincerely,
    Kip
     
  18. R.Kipling

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    BMC,

    I agree, outright attack ads are repulsive in most cases. There is, however, a case to be made for good, solid informational ads that point out the inconsistencies in NObama's persona vs. character.

    A prime example is the Fannie and Freddie case. NObama is firmly entrenched with the Clinton appointee's that took the Mac's down the toilet. Raines and Johnson got 10's of millions of dollars in severance packages, based on cooked books. The malignant media won't tell the non-thinking public these things, so the info must be disseminated by campaign ads, pure and simple.

    This issue alone, is worth four or five good 'info-ads' that could be done in a manner that doesn't appear to be a direct attack. I'm just not sure that McCain will approve such a project. I'm hoping that the 527's will begin to do it for him, but then again, the 527's aren't known for being subtle. See my dilemma now?

    Kip
     
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    Pleasantly surprised by McCain's comments today. I'm sure it won't make the miss-news cycle, but it is a heart warming start.

    Kip
     
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