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Makes sense on both sides of the political fence

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by \/\/\/Z\/\/\/, Aug 20, 2012.

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  1. \/\/\/Z\/\/\/

    \/\/\/Z\/\/\/ Member

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    I typically NEVER send out these types of messages; BUT, this one was special! I received this form a friend today and it made a lot of sense:

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    Warren Buffet is asking everyone to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.

    In three days, most people in the U.S. will have the message.
    This is one idea that really should be passed around.

    We're ALL in this mess together ... it's up to us to fix it ... for our kids!

    Read and pass on to 20 of your friends...

    Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling ....

    "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that any time there is a deficit of more than 3% of GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election."

    The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months and 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it.
    That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.

    Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - all because of public pressure. Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise. In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message.

    This is one idea that really should be passed around.

    Congressional Reform Act of 2012

    1. No Tenure/No Pension
    A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.

    2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social Security.
    All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.

    3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.

    4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.
    Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.

    5. Congress loses their current health care system and participates in the same health care system as the American people.

    6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.

    7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 12/1/12.
    The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.
    Congress made all these contracts for themselves.

    Serving in Congress is an honor, not a career.

    The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work.

    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S.) to receive the message.

    Don't you think it's time?

    THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!

    If you agree, pass it on.

    We're ALL in this mess together ... it's up to us to fix it NOW!!
  2. halfmile

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    Obama claims Warren Buffet is his friend.

    I like the plan, but it's pie in the sky.

    Let's just start with Congress having the same health care as normal people.

    HM
  3. Rick Barker

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    Sure it is the right fix, but it would have to be done with Consitutional amendment.

    Do you really think Congress would write such a restrictive amendment for themselves, without a gun held to their head?
  4. GunDr

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    congress doesn't need to pass anything. The citizens of each state can vote for an amendment, then 3/4 of all the states.

    ...on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof…"
    --- Article V, Constitution of the United States of America
  5. Rick Barker

    Rick Barker Well-Known Member

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    GunDr


    Yes, you are right, the States can call for a convention, but I suspect that would never happen either.

    States like CA, NY, IL (Chicago) and others who dip into the treasury through their congressmen and senators would not want to destroy a good thing.

    As long as the more populous States can slop at the trough and the smaller States unable to stop it, nothing would change.

    In todays world, I would be more afraid of a Constitutional Convention doing more harm than good.


    Then I wonder if the electorate (50% pay no taxes and 50% getting some type of government check) would even see Congress as the problem.

    I would think that with so many of them ignorant of what goes on, plus the constant drum of the network media they watch, such and attempt to reign in Comgress would be looked at as that evil one percent crowd trying to surpress the rights of the underclass.

    Call me pessimistic, i just don't see the people doing the right thing. i am convinced the whole system will crash, before it is changed.
  6. Brian in Oregon

    Brian in Oregon Well-Known Member

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    You better pray a constitutional convention is never called. The socialists and liberals would put a quick end to several amendments in the Bill of Rights. Especially the Second Amendment.
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