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  1. JBrooks

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    Read this story and then call these liberal pukes. Numbers at the end.

    From www.9news.com

    More at: http://www.redstate.com/warner_todd_huston/2009/02/09/another-example-of-how-liberals-destroy-this-country/

    "AURORA - A local school district has suspended a member of the Young Marines youth leadership group after students saw drill props in her vehicle.

    Marie Morrow, a 17-year-old senior at Cherokee Trail High School in Aurora, is serving a 10-day suspension. Her punishment could be extended at an expulsion hearing later this month.

    Morrow is a student leader in the Douglas County Young Marines, a group dedicated to teaching leadership and life skills.

    Cherry Creek Schools suspended Morrow after other students reported seeing guns inside her SUV, which was parked outside school while she was in class.

    The school also called police, who seized the three drill team guns made of wood, plastic and duct tape. Police told Morrow to claim them in time for her after-school drill practice off-campus.

    School administrators, however, were less understanding. The guns were declared "authentic representations of genuine weapons," triggering a mandatory expulsion statute in state law.

    "I have never been in trouble at all," said Morrow, who is planning to attend the United States Merchant Marine Academy. "I hadn't imagined in a million years that anything like this would have happened."

    Chris Proctor, commanding officer of the Douglas County Young Marines, was rebuffed in his attempt to explain the props to school leaders.

    "There's no mistaking that these are not real rifles," said Proctor. "I think somewhere along the line, logic has to take over and they have to be able to make exceptions to the rules."

    "Marie is one of the best kids that you could ever imagine," he said.

    "I could see where the school could be freaked out about it," said Morrow. "But I think there should be some leeway with the law based on situations and realize this is just an honest mistake."

    "The law doesn't make any distinction between a genuine weapon and a facsimile," said Cherry Creek Schools spokeswoman Tustin Amole.

    Amole says federal and state laws mandate expulsion, and that school districts only have discretion to determine the length of that expulsion.

    Asked who had the discretion to deem the props "dangerous weapons," Amole said school administrators and police made the decision based on state law that defines a "dangerous weapon" as "a firearm, whether loaded or unloaded, or a firearm facsimile that could reasonably be mistaken for an actual firearm."

    Amole said the props in Morrow's vehicle caused concern among students and administrators who made an "assumption" that the weapons appeared "genuine."

    Morrow's mother grew emotional while saying she hoped her daughter would continue her volunteer and service work despite the incident.

    "I just don't want it to affect her view on the world, (make her believe) that people who do the right thing don't come out on top," said her mother, Jennifer McGrew. "I've always kind of really looked up to my daughter for having a mind of her own and going places that I never even dreamed."

    A hearing officer could recommend Morrow be allowed back in school after her 10-day suspension or could expel her for as much as the rest of her senior year. The final decision belongs to the Cherry Creek Schools superintendent.

    Morrow, who has already secured the necessary recommendation from a member of Congress to attend the Merchant Marine Academy, has been told an expulsion would not derail her eventual acceptance to the Academy.

    "As long as I can get my diploma, I guess everything else will work itself out," said Morrow, who explained she's trying to focus on her planned career of service. "It's not going to be the end of the world.""

    The principal for Cherokee Trail High School is Brooke Gregory. He could very well be not yet fully aware of this situation: give him a call at 720-886-1904 and politely inquire.

    The Superintendent for the Cherry Creek School System is Marie Chesley, and she would no doubt like this problem to go away. You can reach her at 303-773-1184 - just to make sure, though.

    The Congressman for CO-07 is Ed Perlmutter (D). Call him up at 202-225-2645 and ask him if he supports the expulsion of students trying to do rifle drills. If you live in the District, his number there is 303.274.7944.

    Mark Udall (D) is the senior Senator for Colorado. Call him at 202-224-5941 (877-768-3255 if you’re from Colorado) and ask him the same question, assuming that you can get through from all the people screaming about how we’re about to pass a trillion dollar debt bill.
     
  2. Old Texas Marine

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    I know I am a simple-minded guy who lives in the past, but I see no reason to live in states, counties or school districts that are populated and/or run by fools.

    Sheesh, why do refer to it as "commom sense"? It certainly seems to be less and less common nowadays.

    HBT
     
  3. SeldomShoots

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    OTM, you are so right. It should now be referred to as "uncommon sense". It seems only a few exhibit having it.

    JB, thanks for reporting this. John E.
     
  4. jagrdawger

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    Schools are tasked with teaching young minds critical thinking, thoughtful decision making, problem solving and how to make a good judgment. Are we surprised that our schools are failing when we see weak minded administrators who fail to think critically, will not think through their decisions and make poor judgments.

    This law clearly allows for the opportunity to think critically about the components used to make the "weapons", think through whether a few young students who have probably never safely handled a firearm should really determine that they "looked real" and chose to take the easy way out by saying the state law said they had to take action.

    A critical thinker would have solved this problem by demonstrating to the naive idiots (look up the definition - some of these kids probably qualify) that sticks and tape do not a gun make and then advising the "offender" to keep them out of site in the future so as not to confuse the simple minded.
     
  5. shadow

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    Screw a school system like that. Tell her to quit and take the test for a GED. A Ged is the same/or better than a High school diplome from one of those puppy mill schools that turn out "graduates" that cant do 4th grade math(make change) or read at a 6th grade level.
     
  6. slide action

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    And people wonder why I HATE Liberals????!!!!
     
  7. Lead Man

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    Just the looney left trying to give the kids security. What a joke.

    When I was in High School I had been hunting earlier in the morning and left a 357 in a shoulder holster, told the teacher I needd to go to the car and put my pistol away. She just said to hurry. Man times change.
     
  8. daddiooo

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    If that were my daughter I'd pull her out of that cess pool so fast it'd create a sucking sound. If that's an example of what the thought process is there she couldn't be getting an education that's anything near good. I certainly wouldn't want her exposed to that kind of "wrong headed" thinking.


    I thing the term frickin' morons comes to mind.


    Might want to consider legal action against the school district. Violation of her civil liberties and her right to freedom of expression. Just a thought....


    Good luck and keep us informed on the outcome.

    Dave
     
  9. jagrdawger

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    Shadow - for what she wants to do with her life a GED is nearly the equivalent of being a drop out. Things may have changed in the last couple of years, but as an Army Recruiting Commander GED's were a nightmare for the applicant. With a GED you had very few options, did not qualify for any of the high tech or high security jobs, rarely saw a signing bonus and generally got what ever was the worst of the available jobs. It was considered a second class piece of paper. Even a diploma from an alternative school was a better option.



    I used to take a rifle with me to check traps on the way to school when I was old enough to drive and sometimes had a shotgun or a bow as well during pheasant or deer season. We even had a day where they shot a little trap on a farm field next to the football field. Guns were presented to the bus driver who verified it was unloaded then it sat with the kid for the ride to school - no horse play allowed and shells were provided by the school.
     
  10. recurvyarcher

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    If you can, send your kids to conservative private schools. Private schools without public funding can pick and choose their students. They can also choose to have Christmas play, require all to respect the flag, and have shooting teams.
     
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    Stupidity abounds!!!!!!!!!!!!! Obvious source of concentrated virus...

    It amazes me about crap like this in todays society. When in high school it was common knowledge for the majority, teachers and students alike of my involvement in shooting sports and hunting. From almost day one of school (start of dove season in KS) till end of Feb (about when I usually quit hunting which was rabbit season) there was atleast one firearm in the car or PU. Some of my teachers on any given day would amusingly ask what type of heaters I had in the car. If only sensible times prevailed to present.
     
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    As a retired Marine I am appauled, you just can not fix stupid. I a lawyer could be found that would take up her cause pro-bono.

    Ronbo
     
  13. Jamesquinn

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    If you can, send your kids to conservative private schools. Private schools without public funding can pick and choose their students. They can also choose to have Christmas play, require all to respect the flag, and have shooting teams.

    Recurvey - Our public high school team has 170 kids shooting trap and skeet. You'll be happy to know that one of the top shooters is a gal.
     
  14. Jamesquinn

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    JBrooks. Please explain or point out where this article says anything about the political affiliation or beliefs of the people involved.

    Oh, I see. You're just making up lies.
     
  15. H82MIS

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    I think brooks has it right,,,liberal pukes,,,,
     
  16. Old Texas Marine

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    Jamesquinn,

    Regarding "the political affiliation or beliefs of the people involved".....it is not always necessary to see the bull to know that he has been there.

    I don't care what the political leanings of the folks are. Stupid is as stupid does. I don't care what they do. But I demand that consideration in return. If they don't like to wear green or fur or eat meat or whatever so be it; just don't tell me I can't.

    We have entered the era of the busybody. Leave me the hell alone.

    HBT
     
  17. Jamesquinn

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    Old Tex- what does your ranting have to do with school officials following state law?

    OICU812 - Please get your GED. You inability to write or comprehend English is annoying.

    JBrooks, where's your answer?
     
  18. slide action

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    Jamesquinn, My guess is this has NOTHING to do with state law. It is simply a liberal piece of scum's personal OPINION! If anybody thinks a WOODEN PROP used in drill practice is a WEAPON, then they are FREAKING MORON! I would wager this isn't about that any way. This sorry piece of scum simply doesn't like people who have any association with the Military, and is using this as a lame excuse to punish this young lady for it. If I was betting I would give odds that this AH is an low life, socialist, America hating POS! If you come on here defending the stupid liberal pukes, then you will find yourself in a vast MINORITY here!!!! OH by the way, just for the record, I hate their FV<#ing guts!-- M.E. Brazell USAF Retired
     
  19. JBrooks

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    Well Quinney,

    Why don't you tell us that these anti-gun, liberal pukes are Republicans? Who knows, you may be right. ROFLMAO
     
  20. Jamesquinn

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    Mr. Brazell _ You're a retired noncom, right? How could I have guessed that?

    It's simple. You make an assumption based on your personal hatred, and for which there are no facts in evidence.

    You apparently think your opinion is improved by the use of CAPITAL LETTERS, exclamation points and profanity.

    No, Mr. Brazell, I am not in the minority. Most Americans voted for Barak Obama who is a liberal. You lost. Fact. Live with it.

    You're a perfect example of the difference between enlisted and officers. There's a reason for that. Maybe you can figure out what it is.

    Capt James Quinn
     
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