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Letter Urging Shooting Friends to join the NRA

Discussion in 'Politics, Elections & Legislation' started by johnhefley, Dec 28, 2012.

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  1. johnhefley

    johnhefley Member

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    Just sent to my sons and my shooting/hunting friends. It included the NRA/ILA alert below it.
    jh

    Gents:

    Please at least read my preface to the article below. Nobody's asking me to send this. I'm doing it of my own volition.

    We all surely felt equally horrible about the recent shooting sprees by madmen and criminals over the last weeks and months. I know I do.

    Within 2 days of the Sandy Hook shooting, Diane Feinstein was on "Meet the Press" vowing to introduce new, sweeping gun control legislation on the first day of the new session of Congress. This legislation has been "in the works" for some years, and Adam Lanza handed her the perfect opportunity on a silver (actually black) platter.

    Feinstein and other anti-gun advocates have had 16 years to study the shortcomings of the 1994 gun ban legislation, and to enhance it.

    Regardless how YOU feel about "black guns", it is only a matter of time before congressional gun banners come after YOUR pet gun, and your favorite shooting activities. Your Benelli, your Marlin .30-30, your Remington 870, or your Savage rifle will eventually be outlawed as well someday. So don't think you're immune from attacks and criminalization of your shooting/hunting activities because you "don't like assault weapons anyway."

    The point of this email is to urge each of you to join and support the NRA. You may have some visceral negative feeling about the NRA, but the bottom line is this: THERE IS NOBODY ELSE DEFENDING YOUR 2ND AMENDMENT RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS BESIDES THE NRA. PERIOD.

    With over 12 million hunters in this country, I can't fathom how the NRA has only 4 million members. I won't speculate, and I don't care. But they've "got your back." And without membership numbers and funding, we're going to lose this, and every subsequent battle to defend our 2nd amendment freedoms.

    Bottom line: Join the NRA today. If you can't afford it, tell me. I'll pay for your first year's membership.

    jh


    Feinstein Goes For Broke With New Gun-Ban Bill

    Sen. Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.)—author of the federal “assault weapon” and “large” ammunition magazine ban of 1994-2004—has announced that on the first day of the new Congress—January 3rd— she will introduce a bill to which her 1994 ban will pale by comparison. On Dec. 17th, Feinstein said, “I have been working with my staff for over a year on this legislation” and “It will be carefully focused.” Indicating the depth of her research on the issue, she said on Dec. 21st that she had personally looked at pictures of guns in 1993, and again in 2012.

    According to a Dec. 27th posting on Sen. Feinstein’s website and a draft of the bill obtained by NRA-ILA, the new ban would, among other things, adopt new definitions of “assault weapon” that would affect a much larger variety of firearms, require current owners of such firearms to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act, and require forfeiture of the firearms upon the deaths of their current owners. Some of the changes in Feinstein’s new bill are as follows:

    • Reduces, from two to one, the number of permitted external features on various firearms. The 1994 ban permitted various firearms to be manufactured only if they were assembled with no more than one feature listed in the law. Feinstein’s new bill would prohibit the manufacture of the same firearms with even one of the features.

    • Adopts new lists of prohibited external features. For example, whereas the 1994 ban applied to a rifle or shotgun the “pistol grip” of which “protrudes conspicuously beneath the action of the weapon,” the new bill would drastically expand the definition to include any “grip . . . or any other characteristic that can function as a grip.” Also, the new bill adds “forward grip” to the list of prohibiting features for rifles, defining it as “a grip located forward of the trigger that functions as a pistol grip.” Read literally and in conjunction with the reduction from two features to one, the new language would apply to every detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifle. At a minimum, it would, for example, ban all models of the AR-15, even those developed for compliance with California’s highly restrictive ban.

    • Carries hyperbole further than the 1994 ban. Feinstein’s 1994 ban listed “grenade launcher” as one of the prohibiting features for rifles. Her 2013 bill carries goes even further into the ridiculous, by also listing “rocket launcher.” Such devices are restricted under the National Firearms Act and, obviously, are not standard components of the firearms Feinstein wants to ban. Perhaps a subsequent Feinstein bill will add “nuclear bomb,” “particle beam weapon,” or something else equally far-fetched to the features list.

    • Expands the definition of “assault weapon” by including:

    • Three very popular rifles: The M1 Carbine (introduced in 1944 and for many years sold by the federal government to individuals involved in marksmanship competition), a model of the Ruger Mini-14, and most or all models of the SKS.

    • Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has a fixed magazine with the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” except for tubular-magazine .22s.

    • Any “semiautomatic, centerfire, or rimfire rifle that has an overall length of less than 30 inches,” any “semiautomatic handgun with a fixed magazine that has the capacity to accept more than 10 rounds,” and any semi-automatic handgun that has a threaded barrel.

    • Requires owners of existing “assault weapons” to register them with the federal government under the National Firearms Act (NFA). The NFA imposes a $200 tax per firearm, and requires an owner to submit photographs and fingerprints to the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (BATFE), to inform the BATFE of the address where the firearm will be kept, and to obtain the BATFE’s permission to transport the firearm across state lines.

    • Prohibits the transfer of “assault weapons.” Owners of other firearms, including those covered by the NFA, are permitted to sell them or pass them to heirs. However, under Feinstein’s new bill, “assault weapons” would remain with their current owners until their deaths, at which point they would be forfeited to the government.

    • Prohibits the domestic manufacture and the importation of magazines that hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition. The 1994 ban allowed the importation of such magazines that were manufactured before the ban took effect. Whereas the 1994 ban protected gun owners from errant prosecution by making the government prove when a magazine was made, the new ban includes no such protection. The new ban also requires firearm dealers to certify the date of manufacture of any >10-round magazine sold, a virtually impossible task, given that virtually no magazines are stamped with their date of manufacture.
    Targets handguns in defiance of the Supreme Court. The Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second Amendment protects the right to have handguns for self-defense, in large part on the basis of the fact handguns are the type of firearm “overwhelmingly chosen by American society for that lawful purpose.” Semi-automatic pistols, which are the most popular handguns today, are designed to use detachable magazines, and the magazines “overwhelmingly chosen” by Americans for self-defense are those that hold more than 10 rounds. Additionally, Feinstein’s list of nearly 1,000 firearms exempted by name (see next paragraph) contains not a single handgun. Sen. Feinstein advocated banning handguns before being elected to the Senate, though she carried a handgun for her own personal protection.

    • Contains a larger piece of window dressing than the 1994 ban. Whereas the 1994 ban included a list of approximately 600 rifles and shotguns exempted from the ban by name, the new bill’s list is increased to nearly 1,000 rifles and shotguns. Other than for the 11 detachable-magazine semi-automatic rifles and one other semi-automatic rifle included in the list, however, the list appears to be pointless, because a separate provision of the bill exempts “any firearm that is manually operated by bolt, pump, lever, or slide action.”

    The Department of Justice study. On her website, Feinstein claims that a study for the DOJ found that the 1994 ban resulted in a 6.7 percent decrease in murders. To the contrary, this is what the study said: “At best, the assault weapons ban can have only a limited effect on total gun murders, because the banned weapons and magazines were never involved in more than a modest fraction of all gun murders. Our best estimate is that the ban contributed to a 6.7 percent decrease in total gun murders between 1994 and 1995. . . . However, with only one year of post-ban data, we cannot rule out the possibility that this decrease reflects chance year-to-year variation rather than a true effect of the ban. Nor can we rule out effects of other features of the 1994 Crime Act or a host of state and local initiatives that took place simultaneously.”
    “Assault weapon” numbers and murder trends. From the imposition of Feinstein’s “assault weapon” ban (Sept. 13, 1994) through the present, the number of “assault weapons” has risen dramatically. For example, the most common firearm that Feinstein considers an “assault weapon” is the AR-15 rifle, the manufacturing numbers of which can be gleaned from the BATFE’s firearm manufacturer reports, available here. From 1995 through 2011, the number of AR-15s—all models of which Feinstein’s new bill defines as “assault weapons”—rose by over 2.5 million. During the same period, the nation’s murder rate fell 48 percent, to a 48-year low. According to the FBI, 8.5 times as many people are murdered with knives, blunt objects and bare hands, as with rifles of any type.

    Traces: Feinstein makes several claims, premised on firearm traces, hoping to convince people that her 1994 ban reduced the (relatively infrequent) use of “assault weapons” in crime. However, traces do not indicate how often any type of gun is used in crime. As the Congressional Research Service and the BATFE have explained, not all firearms that are traced have been used in crime, and not all firearms used in crime are traced. Whether a trace occurs depends on whether a law enforcement agency requests that a trace be conducted. Given that existing “assault weapons” were exempted from the 1994 ban and new “assault weapons” continued to be made while the ban was in effect, any reduction in the percentage of traces accounted for by “assault weapons” during the ban, would be attributable to law enforcement agencies losing interest in tracing the firearms, or law enforcement agencies increasing their requests for traces on other types of firearms, as urged by the BATFE for more than a decade.

    Call Your U.S. Senators and Representative: As noted, Feinstein intends to introduce her bill on January 3rd. President Obama has said that gun control will be a “central issue” of his final term in office, and he has vowed to move quickly on it.

    Contact your members of Congress at 202-224-3121 to urge them to oppose Sen. Feinstein’s 2013 gun and magazine ban. Our elected representatives in Congress must here from you if we are going to defeat this gun ban proposal. You can write your Representatives and Senators by using our Write Your Representatives tool here: http://www.nraila.org/get-involved-locally/grassroots/write-your-reps.aspx

    Millions of Americans own so-called “assault weapons” and tens of millions own “large” magazines, for self-defense, target shooting, and hunting. For more information about the history of the “assault weapon” issue, please visit www.GunBanFacts.com.
     
  2. 548

    548 Guest

    133 million gun owners in America.

    4 million NRA members.

    129 million gun owning non-NRA members.
     
  3. crusha

    crusha TS Member

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    We'll see what the membership total is up to, after all this.

    If the NRA does this good with 4 Million...imagine them with 5.


    I'm sending my NRA-ILA check now. Thanks for the reminder, 548.
     
  4. KS-OKIE

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    129 million non-members being carried on the backs of 4-million plus NRA members.These FREELOADERS are starting to get a little heavy...KS-OKIE.
     
  5. John Galt

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    I'm making a contribution to NRA-ILA today too in honor of 548, since he reminded me to do it. Thanks pardner.

    BTW, if you will provide your name and address I'll have them send you a thank you note.
     
  6. 548

    548 Guest

    Galt, I was a member one year many many years ago. My mail carrier and local landfill has been paying the price ever since.
     
  7. 548

    548 Guest

    I personally will never join the NRA again.

    But, I wonder if they would tame down the solicitation via mail if they could garner a better average membership than the 3% of gun owners they currently have.
     
  8. Catpower

    Catpower Molon Labe TS Supporters

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    %48 is standing true to his colors, he has been a tick on the tit of the taxpayers all his life, and now he wants the support of all the loyal gun owners to protect his right to bear arms, if he really does even own a gun
     
  9. 548

    548 Guest

    "he wants the support of all the loyal gun owners to protect his right to bear arms" -- Catpower


    What is a "loyal gun owner"?

    Like everyone in America, my beliefs are represented by what I do on the first Tuesday of November. I don't happen to believe that a check for $35 a year (or whatever it is now) to the NRA gives you any louder voice than the 129 million non-NRA member gun owners.
     
  10. noknock1

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    So lobbies don't work? Unions don't cripple companies and influence politicians with money? Why are they around? Plenty of workers that are not in the unions... Lots of people over age of 50 in this country, the AARP doesn't influence congress more so than the hundred million plus senior citizens that are not members?

    Lobbies do multiple things but a couple big ones:

    1) They provide money to politicians, yes? Campaigns politically speaking live and die usually based directly on how much money they raise to outspend their opponents for advertising their platform, etc.

    2) They show politicians that certain groups of people with similar interests are organized have attorneys read line for line proposed bills that sneaky congressmen try to slip by,they show politicians that they are relevant!

    Without the NRA, congress would not give a crap about 129 million unorganized gun owners. Without the NRA and it's staff of attorneys for instance, there would not have been a Amicus brief filed with the SCOTUS on the HELLER decision and the Oaks Park case in Chicago and plenty of other cases around the U.S.

    If you don't want to join the NRA and be a member because of too much mail... then at least donate to the NRA-ILA. If one is that worried about mail, then mail in a money order with no return label or whatever. Point is, the NRA is still the most effective pro-gun lobby on the planet.

    You don't hear the media and gun grabbing libs talking about "...129 million gun owners..." No, the only three letters mentioned by mainstream media and gun hating politicians are N.R.A.

    Yes vote your beliefs in November, but back them up with a donation to the NRA-ILA. I agree that $35.00 isn't much at all when all gun owners are in the fight of our lifetime to protect the integrity of the constitution. All of us should be giving as much as we can to the NRA-ILA. Just being a LIFE member and getting a free magazine isn't enough!
     
  11. johnhefley

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    For those individuals complaining about the amount of mail they get from the NRA: It IS possible to reduce the number of contacts you get from them. Just ask. In fact, if we all received less stuff from the NRA, our dues money would be more efficiently used.

    The NRA is not a perfect organization. But right now, it's the only voice we have protecting our Second Amendment rights.

    One comment I found interesting on this thread referred to voicing one's opinion at the ballot box.

    My state Senators are Bernie Sanders and Patrick Leahy. My (sole) Congressman is Peter Welch.

    I can go to the ballot box until the day I die voting against these individuals, but my fellow Vermont citizens will re-elect, and re-elect these gentlemen time and time again. And I am absolutely certain that they do not, and will not represent my interests as a sportsman and gun owner.

    But when Wayne LaPierre appeared on "Meet the Press" 1 week after Diane Feinstein and Michael Bloomberg, I was relieved at last that the perspective of law abiding gun owners was finally being heard.

    My elected representatives would NEVER do that.
    jh
     
  12. straightshooter1

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    548:

    I "think" it has been posted here, and I know it has been posted on many other sites, that all one has to do is call the NRA and ask that all the mail be stopped.

    The only mail I get from the NRA, and I am a Life Member for many years, and an Annual Member for many, many years before moving to Life, is related to elections, who they recommend, etc. I have never gotten follow up requests for money even after sending them a donation. I have gotten a few letters about accident insurance from them (actually not really the NRA, but companies who use their name/support).

    I have never received a phone call from them.

    I just signed my wife up for an Annual Membership.

    I don't know if everyone who asks them to stop the so-called junk mail has been as successful as I have, but it has worked out for me.

    A lot of organizations send tons of junk mail. My wife gets requests for money from about every animal organization there is, several times a week.

    Bob
     
  13. JH

    JH Well-Known Member

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    548,

    I am sure Pelosi is really worried about your "political clout" in the upcoming gun-rights battles.....she is probably calling you directly to negotiate....IDIOT!


    HANG TOGETHER OR HANG SEPARATELY.....

    Join the NRA! If not now, when?
     
  14. 548

    548 Guest

    Bangalore

    4 million like you

    129 million like me

    (Who's the idiot)
     
  15. CalvinMD

    CalvinMD Well-Known Member

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    Definantly you 548...the other 128,999,999 might come to their senses but you're obviously a lost cause
     
  16. 548

    548 Guest

    There's an extra million hanging in the wind Cal. :)
     
  17. JH

    JH Well-Known Member

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    Let's try this again.....work with me now, 548....maybe some neurons will finally fire....


    HANG TOGETHER OR HANG SEPARATELY....

    Join the NRA....if not NOW.....WHEN?
     
  18. bigbadbobby

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    I am with you 548. I vote on Election Day and make my contributions directly to the candidates I choose.
     
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