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  1. coho

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    My 10 year old son is going to start trap shooting. he’s right handed but left eye dominant. Should I make him shoot left handed or tape his glasses/close his left eye?
     
  2. acss

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    i wud email phil kiner-- pkiner@philkiner.com
     
  3. gun fitter

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    Probably better to leave him right handed and change his eye dominance.

    What ever you do It is always beettr to shoot with two eyes.

    Where do you live I offer some help with this and I have two specialists I work with one an eye doctor and the other a trainer who can change your eye dominance.

    Joe
     
  4. maclellan1911

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    Is he really right handed? Hand him a gun with out any one around see if he mounts it lefty,,,,,All my early years I had to fight for mt Lefty rights.

    Although I can shoot righty, from years of this is HOW you hold it. I feel natual and more relaxed shooting lefty. Also be sure of his Dom eye.
     
  5. andybull

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    My youngest son is right hand, left eye dominant. I taught him to shoot left hand from the get go.

    Andy Baez
     
  6. trapman69

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    As far as I know there is no evidence that Eye dominance can be changed. I tried just about everything. So tell me what's the big secret for changing Eye dominance???? Far as left or right let him decide which way is more natural for him. Too many adults want to try and make the kids shoot how they want instead of how the kids want to shoot. Next thing you know the kid is playing video games. The only thing I do left handed is shoot a gun or bow. My 2cents. Tom R
     
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    I'm rt. handed but lf. eye dominant. 62 now and been shooting since I was 11. I shoot left handed whether it be rifle or shotgun although I shoot pistol right handed and cross over to use the left eye. Shooting lefty came natural as soon as I found that was the only way I could hit anything. Bulge.
     
  8. Old Doc

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    My right handed left eye dominant son learned to shoot left handed with ease. I also have a son-in-law who has central vision. He closes his off eye rather than mounting gun on his sternum like Ray Farrell from the Quad Cities area did years ago. I don't think eye dominance can be changed. D Winter
     
  9. creteham

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    I'm like Barrelbulge. Do everything right handed except shoot pool, a bow, or long arm left handed. Also do the right-handed, left-eyed handgun thing. I don't have too much of a problem shooting a rifle or shotgun right-handed (equally poor either side), but left eye is dominant, and it feels more natural to shoot lefty. My short answer, whatever feels best to your son.

    Terry
     
  10. gyrine

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    I am 65 years old. Right handed, left dominate eye. I started shooting trap again last spring after a 20 year lay off. When I was shooting in the 1980's I shot right handed with the tape over the left lense and was never happy about it, although I shot good scores. When I took up the game again I shifted to shooting from the left side. There was a very short learning curve and it was the best decision I could have made. Start your son shooting from the left, he deserves every advantage he can get. Two eyed shooters have a very definate advantage, why give that up? Some one suggested starting with a bb gun to get the mehanics down. I think that is a very good idea. gyrine
     
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    I was at a 4-H .22 competition when I was about 12. I was having a terrible time hitting anything. My Dad had me do the eye dominance test and we discovered I was right-handed, left-eye dominate. I started shooting left handed, and I haven't looked back. That was 42 years ago.
     
  12. Jawhawker

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    coho, switch him over to left hand shooting. He may argue in the beginning but have a simple man on man conversation with him and explain the vertues of shooting from his left shoulder. It may seem somewhat akward in the beginning but just have him practice mounting the gun at home where others won't be viewing and cause your son to be self contious. He will get onto it in short order. Also he will thank you down the road especially when trying to use one eye and all the know_it_alls hound him telling your son that you have to use both eyes......
     
  13. coho

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    thanks for the input guys, i had to learn to shoot lefty after an eye injury at the ripe old age of 4 left me mostly blind in my right eye. it took several frustrating years trying to shoot right handed and not being able to look down the barrel/arrow..ect. before my dad came up with the idea of shooting left handed. it was way better. my son has a choice because he can see with both eyes but i'll have him just start out as a lefty instead of trying the tape on the glasses thing. i'm not sure what to do with my daughter either, she shoots a rifle right handed and a shotgun left handed.
     
  14. Recoil Sissy

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    Joe:

    Any chance of sharing contact information for the specialists that help shooters change eye dominance? I'm hoping to pitch a business proposal to them. The concept would be to develop and franchise protocol(s) for shooters wanting to make the swich.

    I'm thinking about using testimonials from successful clients as the center piece of the national marketing program.

    The eye switch deal would be offered by franchisees in addition to that sure fire flinch cure you prevously spoke about.

    I'm thinking about naming the business, Nugatory Shooter's Services - Specious Cures for Real Problems.

    What do you think??

    sissy
     
  15. gun fitter

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    # 1 were talking about a 10 year old and your personal experience may or may not be valid in this instance.

    #2 Most know about the developmental damage from the parochial schools forcing right handedness.

    #3 it is done often in the special educational field mostly for dyslexic students.

    #4 if one is truly cross dominate then they are hemisphericaly challenged and could have a different learning experience. Neurologically speaking changing handedness can lead to problems.

    #5 one must be tested several different ways and under different conditions to determine if the observation is correct. In some individuals Near vision is dominate in a different eye. Handedness can also be learned from parents and is difficult to test.



    I utilize two experts one an eye doctor and the other an educator with a medical background to find the best solution.

    In some instances when there is only a weak cross dominance; a proper gunfit and a few sessions with me can fix the problem. In others a trip to the eye Dr. and new prescriptions are needed. Some need to practice special exercises daily for 6 months to a year.



    Sissy I appreciate the thought but it would not be practical Least I say very difficult. Every individual with these sorts of problems are unique individuals. Every program is tailored to the individual and you cant write a flow chart for it.

    Even if a protocol could be designed It wouldn't be easy to teach. A high percentage of the population (70-80%) just aren't intelligent enough. The Super intelligent can't do this either. One must have very acute perceptual skills and communication skills for a wide segment of the population. That leaves possibly 5-10% who could possibly do this even if they wanted to. I know this is going to ruffle a few feathers but the best shooters I have met just don't have the skills or adaptability to do this: they are gifted in other ways.

    I know of two other individual in the shooting world that have a good understanding of these concepts. Amoung the hundreds of shooters I know who do not make a living off of shooting I can count 3 who may be able to teach such a process. In most instances I act as a diagnostician and coach. I don't do this by myself I work with others who have more specialized training.

    In order to teach this one would have to serve an apprenticeship for an extended period of time not practical financially for the student.


    Joe
     
  16. Golden Beebe

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    Joe...Gun Fitter

    You have a PM.
     
  17. gun fitter

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    Beebe send me your phone I'll call U
     
  18. gun fitter

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    Lead Miner makes a very valid point- "Your eyes are the most important part of your shooting but are the least taken care of. If your eyes aren't trained right it does not matter how well the gun is fitted to you."

    Not completly true about the fit. However most of my customers will attest to the fact that I insist on a current eye exam prior to gunfitting.

    I for one don't charge for this work I help when I can and refer the rest. Cost is usually the cost of a complete eye exam which they should already have and possibility purchasing some training aids.

    Indeed changing eye dominance should not cost lots of money. It will take practice. Now there are those who can't do it on their own and need someone to hold their hand. I call this coaching and not teaching and for this I do charge.


    On the subject of changing handedness one should read about the developmental problems created by parochial schools doing just this.
    Neurologically one is abnormal if they are cross dominate and it will effect all aspects of their life. balancing the brain so that both visual and coordination are controlled by the same hemisphere of the brain is proper.

    Cross dominance is a trait shared by many autistic and dyslexic individuals.

    People need to take great care least they cause damage to an individual.

    Joe
     
  19. jcw62

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    Interesting topic I thought I was the only one that had this problem. I do everything right handed except shoot, whether it is a shotgun, bow, or a pistol.

    I always found it awkward to shoulder a shotgun right handed, after not shooting for 27 years I thought I would shoulder my Model 12 right handed and it did not feel all of that awkward, so the next time I go out I'm going to shoot it right handed and see how I do.
     
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    shooting left handed the first time in 27 years.
     
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