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? Las Vegas 1000 Lawsuit

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by Brad Dysinger, Jul 26, 2013.

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  1. Brad Dysinger

    Brad Dysinger Member

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    Does anyone know if the guys who got kicked out of the ATA over the Las Vegas 1000 shoot have sued the ATA or not? I've been told they did but I don't have the info. Thanks Brad
     
  2. grunt

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  3. ShotStop

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    OK, before everyone starts speculating, above is a link to a page we put up for all of our friends and supporters across the country. We and dozens of other people have tried since last September to get this unfair treatment of us reversed by the EC but they chose not to address it.

    Unfortunately, due to the statute of limitations we could no longer wait in good faith so we have filed an action to seek a fair remedy. Because the lawsuit is public record, we felt it is better to make it readily available so we wouldn't have to keep answering the same questions or have people putting misinformation.

    While some people have said that they hope we use our rights under discovery to expose things about the Association that they would like some facts about, it is our hope that we are able to resolve this matter without having to get into interrogatories, production of documents and depositions.

    We stated repeatedly that this was not a course we wanted to take. However, now that we have begun we will see it to conclusion.

    Thank you again to all the people who have supported us.

    Jim & Gary
     
  4. Trap2

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    Jim and Gary... You have my utmost respect and support in going after the ATA for what they pulled on both of you. What's wrong is wrong, I don't care who you are, and they were, and are, definitely in the wrong. Wishing you both a very successful outcome to a very unpleasant situation.... Dan Thome (Trap2)
     
  5. Barry C. Roach

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    Has to be more to it than what is written in the "Plaintiff's" statement. Any one want to bet me that this will go nowhere and the only ones who will profit will be the lawyers.
     
  6. rwtii

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    I'll take that bet. How much would you like to wager? It is my opinion that ATA is toast if the allegations are true and proven.
     
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    Rick, That's what happens when you have people in charge who suffer no pain or financial loss from bad, personal, or group decisions!

    Congress, Senate, President, school boards, city managers.... EC
     
  8. Setterman

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    I remember the original infraction.

    Kind like the Zimmerman/Martin case. If they'de only talked to each other, all this could've been avoided.
     
  9. NMULTRARUNNER55

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    Good thing they filed the lawsuit before the "statue" of limitations ran out :)

    Steve Nunley

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  10. Dr.Longshot

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    The ATA is insured or it should be and the officers and BOD are insured.


    Gary Bryant
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  11. ShotStop

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    LOL. Thanks Steve, good catch!
     
  12. Dr.Longshot

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    every ATA shooter knows there are daily fees for the ATA and State even if accidently not printed in the Program, this could have been the printers fault and the proof readers fault, but I do not believe anyone lost any money for un-collected fees.

    And the club offering to reimburse shooters with a luncheon ticket was above and beyond anyones expectations.

    The executive committee and BOD better hold a WEBINAIR Immeaditly this would hold down expenses for everyone involved along with a Mediator selected by the court.

    Gary Bryant
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    If the facts are even remotely similar to what was presented here last year, then Jim and Gary seem to have a very solid reason to be upset by the "punishment" handed down by the ATA.
     
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    If this is as stated, it is surreal. From what has been said, ATA got their money. If the event sponsors decided to pay the money out of their own pocket, would this still have happened? If so, why?
     
  15. Barry C. Roach

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    The charges in the law suit are just the complainants' side of the story. Those of you that are willing to join the mob to find guilt with the other side, without a fair hearing in a court of law, sound just like those willing to take as many shots at George Zimmerman as they can, until they get the result they want.

    At this point I don't know the defendant's side of the story and can't opine as to what the whole story is. Neither can any of you. Don't be so quick to judge lest you be judged too.
     
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    Was this action initiated by one or more of the shooters at the event? It does appear to be "much ado about nothing". Has to be more to it than shown in the provided documents..... Did someone have an axe to grind? Larry
     
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    I'm stocking up on popcorn....

    The EC and ED are "insured" while within their scope and for unintentional acts... should they be deemed to have acted outside their capacity or purposely chose to injure another party... I'll bet their liability companies may have something to say about that... there can always be personal exposure...

    Jay
     
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    I'm always in awe of " we have no rules allowing us to correct our screw ups" statements!
     
  19. Dr.Longshot

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    Since a lawsuit has been filed the Attys for the defendents is to be provided a disclosure of facts to the plaintiffs and the plaintiffs must file a disclosure of facts to the defedants on a timely basis.

    A webinair meeting of all concerned parties and a mediator are in order for the purpose of settling the dispute.

    Plaintiffs can demand a deposit of defendants liability insurance to the court
    of all defendants Re: BOD and any named defendants in the Corporation of the ATA.

    This is a simple matter that is being used to defame certain individuals which legally is prosecutable.

    It will not cost any ATA Members any money, only those covered by Corp. Liab ility and bonding company of the individuals, but can cause the loss of future bonding by insurance companies.

    The ATA should clear up the matter as soon as possible, the ATA could be legally banned of holding any ATA tournaments including the GRAND AMERICAN if filed
    immeaditly until all matters are cleared.

    Gary Bryant
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  20. W.P.T.

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    I hope the ATA is forced to make amends for penalizing to these men for what they (the ATA) have done all along ... It appeared to be a simple mistake from the start that got blown out of proportion by the EC and BOD, then the ATA made it even worst and doled out excessive penaltys ... The ATA has not listed separate fees etc. on their own shoots like the Grand American until this year when they finally told everyone about the tax issue on targets ... If these men were wrong the ATA has been wrong for decades ... WPT ... (YAC) ...
     
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