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LAB RETRIEVER QUESTION

Discussion in 'Shooting Related Threads' started by dolphin62, Feb 18, 2010.

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  1. dolphin62

    dolphin62 Member

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    I AEEN A LAB AT A GUN CLUB THIS WEEK END THAT WAS HUGE AND VERY GENTLE, NOT FAT BUT BUILT LAIKE A BLACK ANGUS COW. MY COUSIN HAS A CHOC. LAB THATS A PUP THATS BUILT THE SAME WAY. ALMOST SQUARE.

    MY QUESTION IS ...IS THIS A SPECIAL BREED OF LAB OR JUST THE MOTHER HAVING A BAB Y HUEY FOR A PUP.

    I REALLY LIKE THIS BUILD IN THE LAB THEY SEEM REALLY GENTLE AND DOSILE, DON'T GET ME WRONG THE LAB YOU ,I USUALLY SEE ARE VERY NICE ANIMALS ALSO.

    I WAS JUST COURIOUS ABOUT THE BIG BUILT ONES...I JUST NEVER SEE TO MANY OF THEM IS ALL.

    BY THE WAY I COULDN'T ASK MY COUSIN ANYTHING ABOUT THE ANIMAL HE HAS, HE'S THE TYPE WHO SHOULDN'T EVEN BE ALOWED TO HAVE A FINE ANIMAL AS HE DOES.
     
  2. short shucker

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    Hey dolphin62,

    Can you tone down your voice a little. The all caps is hard on the eyes.

    ss
     
  3. wolfram

    wolfram Well-Known Member

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    I like the big square head labs also. I have a yellow one that goes about 110 pounds. His hunting days are mostly behind him now but he is still a great friend. Very affectionate and loyal.
     
  4. Setterman

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    The English Labrador tends to be stocky build, big head, short nose, shorter legs, and are often whiter than yellow, but they are black as well.

    However, I would base a purchase on the appearance of the breeding pair, rather than "hear say", or someone telling you how the pup will look.
     
  5. dolphin62

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    SORRY ABOUT THE CAPS....MY EYE SIGHT IS POOR EVEN WITH CONTACTS.i will try to use lower case only...sorry
     
  6. Remstar311

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    The bigger labs with the blocky head and big chest are usually of english stock. They are generally more desirable for hunting because they are stronger and have good endurance.
     
  7. miketmx

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    There is a guy from Florida I believe "Milner ??" who wrote a book about training the gentle British type Labrador. Personally I appreciate the hard going but easy to please disposition of the American type Labrador. The American Lab can be expected to hunt upland birds and is probably built a little lighter and faster than the British dog who is used only as a "Pick Up" specialist after the "real" hunting dogs have done their thing finding the birds. Go ahead Flame Away!
     
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    Mike the best dog I owned was a british lab. She was the once in a lifetime dog. From grouse to ducks, field to freezing water, while the real dogs get left at home.
     
  9. Setterman

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    I believe the English /British lab is more apt to have joint and hip problems due to their heavier build. They also tend to get overweight in later years if not exercised regularly. My lab was a 120 pound English female. She fought hip issues, and later had to be put down from hip cancer. I still miss her.

    In Arkansas, most of the marsh dogs are thin and light. Some don't even resemble the original lab body style. They like them light and fast. Light, due to limited weight/space in the boat. It is believed the lighter dogs have more endurance because they don't carry so much weight.
     
  10. short shucker

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    I use to have a big black lab that pushed 100lbs most of his adult life. That was the best dog I ever had. If I walked out the door with a gun he was right there. It didn't make any difference if I was wing shooting or squirrel hunting, he wanted to be there.

    That lab lived to be 13yrs old without any hip/back problems. He could handle a 3 or 4 hr outing without much trouble, but I never asked anymore than that out of him.

    I got him for free when he was 6 months old because his owners had no idea what to do with a high energy pup that like to chew on things. Lol. I gave him a job and let him run around the place. No more problems.

    I pretty much let him have the run of the place until he jumped into bed one night. I had to draw the line there because my girlfriend couldn't deal with it. The dog outlasted her by a wide margin.

    I have no idea of his breeding, but another one like him would be worth his weight in gold.

    ss
     
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    I like the block type head as opposed to the mousy type. I do however don't want to hunt out of a duck boat with a dog the size of a heffer. An athetlic 70-80 pound Lab is plenty big. BTW, I'm partial to black.

    Andy
     
  12. dolphin62

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    there all beautiful dogs...just different in different ways.Be lucky that you all had a great dog...some people never have a great dog ever. They will never know what they missed out on in life
     
  13. shadow

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    I have the best of both worlds---a Chesadore. Cross between a Chessie and a Lab.This little guy is going to be a wonderful dog ! Smart as a whip and tough as nails. 5 months old and weighs in at 55 lb.
     
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    This was my ol' Blockhead. 92lbs was his fightin' weight. Like SS, if he saw the shotgun he was ready to go. I would have to sneak a gun out of the house if he wasn't hunting that day. Gentle enough that the kids would hang on him when they were learning to walk.


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  15. Setterman

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    Now that's a Lab!
     
  16. Hooked

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    Here's a picture of my guy. He'll be 11 in April. He typically runs 85 lbs through hunting season and he meets the breed standards so he's only 22" at the withers. He's not huge but he is built like a sh_t brickhouse. Not the fastest dog in the world but he can go all day in the marsh and looks forward to doing it again the next day.

    dolphin62, if you look around you'll find lots of breeders who breed the British type of lab if that's what you really want. Dogs that are bred to the breed standard are no more susceptible to hip/back issues as any other large breed dog. That being said, a good breeder will have information on the parents' hips, elbows and eyes.

    Labs are a great breed irrespective of whether they're the faster American type or the more traditional British type. Good luck in your search.

    Brian
     
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    My girl Asia is now down to 85lbs after a good winter diet and excerice regimen..she is also the big English style Lab..smart as a human and a better person than most...always on my heels and jumps like a rabbit when the gun closet opens
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    Another thought...all the dogs shown on this thread are beautiful ..would love to see them all playing together chasing fetch trainers...wouldn't that be a ball? All of those tails wagging and big ol tongues panting ..they always look like they are smiling
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    Our pure bread girl Gaby is short at the withers too, with a head very similar to Brian's guy. A yeller dog, she weighs 65lbs. and is a wonderful creature. We spent the time with her when she was a pup to teach her manners and our efforts have been well rewarded. She's smart and I swear we have two-way conversations.



    A friend at our club has a yellow male who must weigh 120lbs and has a head as massive as a Mastiff. Gaby looks like a miniature next to him and gets pissed off when he checks out her privates when they romp at the gun club. She is a bit of a prima donna, but I wouldn't want a cold nose up my keaster either.


    The only thing I didn't consider (not that it would have changed my mind) is the shedding... OMG! I have yellow Gaby hair in every facet of my life. My office is 50 miles away from home and her hair is there. It's in my gun cases, incased in the polyurethane I recently applied to my reloading bench, in my truck, my favorite chair--everywhere!


    I know I'll miss her furry deposits one day, I just hope that day is yet far away.


    Gaby's dad,


    Guy Babin
     
  20. Shotgun Specialties

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    We've been breeding and showing the European Type Labradors now for 16 years. All of our lines have field champions behind them. Most of your European Countries require that a dog finishes in field before going onto confirmation championships...not a bad idea. Our mission from the beginning was to breed "problems" out of lines that we desired and to have our own lines someday, which my wife has done. As stated above, all puppies are cute, but take the time and do your research to get a healthy line and dog. There are so many issues that people don't realize that are out there besides; hips, elbows houcks, shoulders, eye problems, heart conditions, seizures, excercize induced syndrome and now were doing heart echo tests. Most of the old lines were clear and then the "backyard breeders" almost have ruined the breed, not only labs. We normally have around 30 or so Labs here that she uses to show and breeding stock. We'll usually run 4 to 6 puppies out of a litter on for 6 months before she'll make the cut on who is the most promising for show, the ones that don't make the cut and are great dogs but might lack one thing of making them the "perfect show dog" and go on to make perfect pets. A good Breeder should offer you more information than you might want and educate you on both sides of the bloodlines of your pet. Don't be afraid to ask for references and the name and number of the Vet they use, I bet he or she can tell you alot about that Breeder. Feel free to contact us 1-513-887-9012, Rebecca at Ljutic Lane Labrador's for advise or if your looking for a Lab. We have some mature puppies and young adults available. Her new web site is about a week away from going back online. I hope this helps someone, Thanks, Doug
     
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